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I watch a lot of police videos, both good and bad, from all over the world. I don't really pay attention to narratives, I try and focus on actual interactions that I can witness for myself, and not someone's interpretation of what happened. It's easy to manipulate a situation with a narrative, but with video footage, it allows a person to come to their own conclusions.
Obviously there will be more bad police videos than good police videos, but, you also have to remember that people are more likely to share videos of bad interactions than good interactions, because, well, let's face it, the bad ones get far more views than the good ones, so you have to take everything into consideration.
Overall, you have to assume that most police are good, but there will always be bad police.
But if we're comparing police across different countries, me being Canadian, I would much rather be under US policing than UK policing. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
Obviously there will be more bad police videos than good police videos, but, you also have to remember that people are more likely to share videos of bad interactions than good interactions, because, well, let's face it, the bad ones get far more views than the good ones, so you have to take everything into consideration.
Overall, you have to assume that most police are good, but there will always be bad police.
But if we're comparing police across different countries, me being Canadian, I would much rather be under US policing than UK policing. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
02-Mar-2021 19:09:15
Typically however, Special Constables here are not armed (although this could depend on the role or location of the SC) and are often volunteer roles.
Would it be easier to not consider PCSOs in the UK as part of the police? Perhaps the fact that they're just an extension of police staff perhaps makes you think they should be police officers when their role is not the same as police, they just happen to be part of police staff.
I guess they could just as well be separated from police and just work closely with them but that's how its currently setup.
Within the context of the UK, it would be extremely unusual for a situation to go from something just a PCSO is present for and then it escalate to the point where armed response is needed. Usually situations that require armed response (whether its a precaution or absolutely needed) are serious enough from the get go.
A good friend of mine is a police officer in Wales, specifically based in Cardiff and in the number of years he's been an officer, there's probably only a handful of situations that required armed response and day to day, it's just simply not needed. And he's even said himself to me that for him to carry a gun would just be massive overkill.
I'm sure if something changed and police officers kept having to call armed response more frequently then maybe that would change but up to now, it just doesn't seem necessary (which is why the system is setup the way it is).
NexOrigin said :
What percent of Americans do you believe carry a weapon in public? I'd be curious to know. Then I'd be curious to see your reaction to what that percentage actually is.
I'm sure it's not that common but will vary state to state but police don't just deal with people in public (e.g out in the open, store, car) but also get house calls as well, and as is the case of the US having a lot of guns, makes more sense for their law enforcement to also have guns.
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Would it be easier to not consider PCSOs in the UK as part of the police? Perhaps the fact that they're just an extension of police staff perhaps makes you think they should be police officers when their role is not the same as police, they just happen to be part of police staff.
I guess they could just as well be separated from police and just work closely with them but that's how its currently setup.
Within the context of the UK, it would be extremely unusual for a situation to go from something just a PCSO is present for and then it escalate to the point where armed response is needed. Usually situations that require armed response (whether its a precaution or absolutely needed) are serious enough from the get go.
A good friend of mine is a police officer in Wales, specifically based in Cardiff and in the number of years he's been an officer, there's probably only a handful of situations that required armed response and day to day, it's just simply not needed. And he's even said himself to me that for him to carry a gun would just be massive overkill.
I'm sure if something changed and police officers kept having to call armed response more frequently then maybe that would change but up to now, it just doesn't seem necessary (which is why the system is setup the way it is).
NexOrigin said :
What percent of Americans do you believe carry a weapon in public? I'd be curious to know. Then I'd be curious to see your reaction to what that percentage actually is.
I'm sure it's not that common but will vary state to state but police don't just deal with people in public (e.g out in the open, store, car) but also get house calls as well, and as is the case of the US having a lot of guns, makes more sense for their law enforcement to also have guns.
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02-Mar-2021 19:18:26 - Last edited on 02-Mar-2021 19:21:51 by Joel
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