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Shady Nick

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Team Skull said :
See Nick, I don't quite think strictly red pill. I lean red pill, yes, but not entirely.

I just think it's silly (to put it lightly) to be saying who is and isn't more oppressed and therefore who has more of an opinion- it's the purest strain of madness and it's how we got to this baneful point in society in the first place.

Instead, the focus SHOULD be on how one can be of service to society- to EVERYBODY, irrespective of whatever quirks they may have.

I meant specifically in the oppressionlympics case.

Trying to fix historical imbalances based on perceived oppression will never work, because even the oppressed will argue about seniority, who is moire deserving, etc.

It's just not going to work ever. Society is a prime example of that.

05-Jul-2017 20:56:07

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Shady Nick said :
Team Skull said :
See Nick, I don't quite think strictly red pill. I lean red pill, yes, but not entirely.

I just think it's silly (to put it lightly) to be saying who is and isn't more oppressed and therefore who has more of an opinion- it's the purest strain of madness and it's how we got to this baneful point in society in the first place.

Instead, the focus SHOULD be on how one can be of service to society- to EVERYBODY, irrespective of whatever quirks they may have.

I meant specifically in the oppressionlympics case.

Trying to fix historical imbalances based on perceived oppression will never work, because even the oppressed will argue about seniority, who is moire deserving, etc.

It's just not going to work ever. Society is a prime example of that.

I mean, it doesn't hurt to try, at least.

At least if it systematically fails, can say you tried, yea? "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

05-Jul-2017 21:02:21

Team Skull
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Shady Nick said :
Team Skull said :
I mean, it doesn't hurt to try, at least.

At least if it systematically fails, can say you tried, yea?

In theory it doesn't hurt to try.

In practice it results in what we see today.

Which is why, at least in theory, people should readjust according to their failures to figure out what works

*shrugs* "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

05-Jul-2017 21:34:13

Ahura

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Team Skull said :


I think that the difference here is that disabled individuals aren't systematically oppressed the same way that queer people are across the world.

I have yet to hear of disabled people being fired from work for the sole purpose being disabled, and then being unable to sue for discrimination because they are not protected by the law, or disabled people being beheaded in certain parts of the world, or being put in literal concentration camps in the modern day. There's no "conversion therapy" for people with disabilities that are labeled by the wider scientific community as torture, but is still legal.

Yes, disabled individuals are still marginalized, but not to the same degree that we are. But we are creatures of anecdote, so I can't wait to see the responses to this. In no Western country LGBT people are oppressed. If you talk about discrimination... look, as long as you distinguish yourself from anyone else and talk about 'the LGBT people' that's one group and 'the heterosexuals and "cis"-genders' the other group, this will only CAUSE discrimination. I'm really no fan of discrimination but by seeing yourself as different from anyone else, any discrimination (whether it's 'positive' (like higher punishments for hate speech specifically against LGTB which you don't complain about even though it's a discriminatory law), neutral, and also negative discirmination) is partly to blame to yourself, honestly.

If you're of immigrant background and live in the West and don't decide to integrate, that's your own choice, but you shouldn't be too surprised that by seeing yourself as different from the rest it will cause discrimination.

If you think you're different, people will sense you're different. If you think you're like anyone else, people will sense you're like as anyone else. Is what I think. Feel free to take a look at my suggestions: 200m xp prestige

05-Jul-2017 22:37:04

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Good on this young man for sticking up for his rights and what he believes in:

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12-Jul-2017 06:10:21

Haukur

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Sadly we have taken many steps backwards as a community. A lot of us, infact have become the very thing we where fighting aginst. How can we as the LGBT community sit back silently, when members of our own community scream bloody murder and lawsuits, when they openly seek out places, such as targeting religious bakers, and scream homophobe and bigot if they will not make them a cake for their wedding?

We used to preach about acceptence and tolerance. What has happened? Why are so many of us becoming the very things we have fought so hard aginst? if some one says something we do not like, we are quick to mob and scream injustice, bigot, homophobe. That is not LGBT Pride.

We will not be accepted by all. But that is all right. We cannot as a community, preach for acceptence and tolerance when we will not do the same thing.

The hardest part for me, was having to play the role of a straight man in the Military during Vietnam. Yes there was a few others who where playing straight in my platoon. And yes I was accosted a few times after I came out of the closet.

Also Chief, you forgot one major moment in the LGBT history, that hit our community hard. The HIV/Aids epidemic. I lost many friends, and one ex lover from it. Thank the Lord that I was spared from it.

On a parting note, I will say this. To all the young men and women in the LGBT community. Stand up and be proud. But do not become what we have fought aginst. Do not become a hetrophobe and bigot yourself. Don't ever think the reason I am peaceful is because I do not know how to be violent.
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19-Jul-2017 11:53:16

Ancient Drew

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^ It's exactly for those reasons and more why I'm central-left. A middle ground is vital to any burgeoning society. People are being hit by bombshells all the time and allowing themselves to be eaten by extreme thoughts which have been holding us back. I'm talking of course about all human beings; some LGBT might be dabbling in the extremist attitude that has stopped us from evolving, but it's quickly becoming forgotten that it's the same attitude that majorities had back in the day which had stopped overall social progress, and temporarily overcome by tolerance.

The human race needs to calm down, let go of any ideas of petty vengeance and get back on track, for ourselves and for all. The memes, flaming and card playing need to stop. Equality means being equal, not making any group including minorities supreme. The time has come to stop the petty squabbling and become a people again.

I myself am a straight white male, but I heavily advocate equality, and I mean true equality rather than a perceived one made up of revenge by an oppressed group. And I implore anyone reading this thread, anyone who is feeling oppressed. Don't seek revenge, or else you will become the monster you claim to fight. If someone challenges you, don't swallow yourself up in that oppression. Become the more mature person. If you can't say anything nice or civilised, don't say anything at all. If someone's being too stubborn to listen, remember that there's no shame in walking away. It's not surrender and it's not losing. It's simply walking away.

This is the 21st Century. It's time for us all to cooperate and become a people. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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19-Jul-2017 12:23:38

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