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Joel
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Cape Killer said :
I'm having trouble understanding;
If the vaccine works and y'all have it, why must I have it?
If the vaccine doesn't work, why must I have it? To add onto Miles' reply about limited hospital capacity, data from countries like the US, the UK, Canada and so on are painting a pretty clear picture.

Cases, hospitalizations, ICU admissions, deaths are all now majority unvaccinated so there's no question that the vaccine works, there's huge amounts of data that show they work.

But again, we live in a collective society. Those who are vaccinated are much better protected but they're not 100% protected, there are some breakthrough cases and not only that, but not having enough people vaccinated means there's no hope of reaching a level of herd immunity, allowing the virus to continue to spread, mutate and create more dangerous variants in the future - resulting in more of a need for boosters and so on...
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31-Aug-2021 14:46:22

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^ The Borg live in a collective society. I do what I want.

Woman loses access to her child because she's unvaccinated.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/08/28/mom-who-refused-covid-vaccine-stripped-of-parenting-time/amp/

Do u really wanna live in a world where the government can mandate sticking a needle in your arm and if u you don't comply, they will take your children away from you?? It's worse than losing your job, they will take your kids away if ya don't get vaxed.

If a hazmat team has to come clean up a truck which crashed transporting the vaccine.... I don't know if I want it in my arm.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/08/27/tractor-trailer-carrying-covid-19-vaccines-crashes-west-virginia/%3famp

Forget all that though, for now, at this point, my protest is with the terms and conditions and privacy agreements that I don't understand, that I'm obliged to agree to before receiving the Vax.

Ps, lololol "collective society", what are you, communist?? Wholly Devil

31-Aug-2021 15:18:04 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 16:26:24 by Cape Killer

Miles Prower
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Cape Killer said :
Your reply hardly makes sense.

If your concern isn't about you because you've had the vaccine.... why should I be prevented from working and paying taxes towards my lengthy hospital visit?

It all just doesn't make sense. So again, I'm stuck on;
If y'all have the vaccine and it works, why must I have the vaccine?
If the vaccine doesn't work, why must I have the vaccine?
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The only thing I know for sure is, I don't understand the terms and conditions and privacy policies I'm obliged to agree to before getting the vaccine.

It would seem it does not make sense to you , or perhaps it does and this is just the usual attempt to fight back against experts in the field who know what they're talking about. A self-inflicted hospital visit is the pinnacle of selfishness. There are people with other medical problems which are having to be put to one side due to an influx of COVID-19 patients - many of which could have prevented their visit.

Inspire you said :
It's an erosion of rights. That doesn't stop till until its challenged.

What rights? The "right" to infect others? The "right" to unnecessarily take up hospital capacity? Low on bank space? Click here .

31-Aug-2021 15:50:14 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 15:55:51 by Miles Prower

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Miles Prower said :


It would seem it does not make sense to you , or perhaps it does and this is just the usual attempt to fight back against experts in the field who know what they're talking about. A self-inflicted hospital visit is the pinnacle of selfishness. There are people with other medical problems which are having to be put to one side due to an influx of COVID-19 patients - many of which could have prevented their visit.



I wouldn't need to "fight back", if "experts" weren't trying to assault me. Why can't ya just leave me and others alone?

Have you ever watched "YouTube Grey Plays apocalypse simulation".... check it out Borg brain. Computer simulations suggest Australia always survives virus and contagious disease. As already stated, in my state, nsw, we have 500 deaths daily. Compare that to the entire countries covid death toll over 2 years of 1000 deaths.

Yea, covid is scary... but I think you have more to fear than me. You get the jab, I won't stop ya.

Miles Prower said :


What rights? The "right" to infect others? The "right" to unnecessarily take up hospital capacity?

Ask California... they're the experts.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/02/26/virginia-hiv-decriminalize/%3foutputType=amp

I don't know what's right or wrong any more.

I just know I don't understand the terms and conditions and privacy policies I'm expected to agree to before getting vaxed. Wholly Devil

31-Aug-2021 16:08:05 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 16:22:03 by Cape Killer

Megycal
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What are these privacy policies etc you have to agree to? I'm British ( specifically English ) and all I had to do was choose between the NHS website or make the appointment through my GP, I chose to use my GP. No signing things, no policies to agree to, just a simple appointment to go to a vaccination centre.
When I went for my vaccination, while I was in the queue waiting for my turn, I was given a leaflet explaining the known side effects of the vaccine ( Pfizer in my case ) and also the possible effects of the virus so I could read them before getting my first jab. I definitely felt I was given enough data to make an informed choice. Before attending I'd also read about both Covid-19 and the 2 main vaccines at that time in our daily newspaper and the BBC website. I was given a revised leaflet for my 2nd jab because more information and statistics were available by then.

31-Aug-2021 18:46:38

Joel
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Matthew, if your reason for not getting vaccinated is because the behaviour of certain healthcare staff wasn't to your liking or not appropriate, aren't you kinda 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'?

The vaccine is for your benefit and everyone in general, not the individual staff member specifically who takes a phone call or administers the vaccine so you're really only punishing yourself, no?. :/

Sorry to hear about your neighbour! On that note though, surely that's a reason to care about Covid/being vaccinated rather than the opposite, as the more people vaccinated means more protection for everyone and less hospitalizations resulting in more capacity to deal with non-covid related health issues?
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