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Cape Killer

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My concerns are;
1... y'all claim something like "there are consequences for your actions (except if you're the vaccine producer whom is immune to consequence)".
2... I don't want to agree to the terms and conditions and privacy policies required before the vaccination. The terms and conditions include the above mentioned "immunity to consequence" for vaccine producers from any adverse reactions you might have. The privacy policy agreement is even worse than the terms and conditions. Upon close examination the"privacy policy" which allows a 3rd party, private, non-governmental BUSINESS! To collect and keep your COMPLETE MEDICAL HISTORY, to do so as they wish, and share your medical history with private health insurers is not about protecting your privacy, it's about SILENCING YOU. If you have an adverse reaction and try to talk about it they can sue you.

I think it's very rude for any government to mandate and force us to agree with these Orwellian, 3rd party, private business agreements. Pretty sure we never had to agree to these types of terms and conditions and privacy policies with other vaccinations.
Wholly Devil

31-Aug-2021 07:35:21 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 07:50:48 by Cape Killer

Inspire you

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Kiwi Magic said :

Just get vaccinated bro. And then all your problems will be solved.

This isn't an answer to the question that was asked.

Where are the jobs for the unvaccinated?
Kiwi Magic said :

And by the way, the vaccine wont hurt you.

It isn't hurting me without it other than financially.

There is a possibility that it could kill me, it has a proven track record, nor do you know what the effects from it might be 10 years from now or less.
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31-Aug-2021 08:07:26

Cape Killer

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Kiwi Magic said :
@Cape Killer Your name sounds like a point of view horror slash movie. Please get real bro.


No. You.

In order to book my covid vaccine shot at the local practice, I must confirm my appointment via this 3rd party private business website www.hotdoc.com.au and agree to the privacy policies here https://practices.hotdoc.com.au/privacy-policy/ which only a QC could understand completely. From my limited understanding, the privacy policy states hotdoc will not disclose any of my complete medical history they gather to anyone other than their business partners.

Don't act like u don't already know that the pharmaceutical companies are immune to any liability. I'm not even going to bother arguing that point.

I'm not down with any of these agreements.
Wholly Devil

31-Aug-2021 08:25:39 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 13:33:44 by Cape Killer

Cape Killer

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Kiwi Magic said :
I guess you have every right to not get vaccinated. But think about it, and those around you.


I am thinking about the people around me.

I'm not out protesting or anything like that against the magic potion. Y'all can do whatever u want, but y'all can't force me to do something I don't wanna do.

I'm having trouble understanding;
If the vaccine works and y'all have it, why must I have it?
If the vaccine doesn't work, why must I have it?
Wholly Devil

31-Aug-2021 09:04:28

Miles Prower
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Cape Killer said :
I'm having trouble understanding;
If the vaccine works and y'all have it, why must I have it?
If the vaccine doesn't work, why must I have it?


Because patients who are not vaccinated are filling beds in hospitals, shifting the focus away from people with other medical concerns. Protect yourself and you greatly reduce the risk of you being hospitalised, thus having a positive impact on the healthcare system which is already struggling.
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31-Aug-2021 09:17:52 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 09:19:54 by Miles Prower

Cape Killer

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Miles Prower said :
Cape Killer said :
I'm having trouble understanding;
If the vaccine works and y'all have it, why must I have it?
If the vaccine doesn't work, why must I have it?


Because patients who are not vaccinated are filling beds in hospitals, shifting the focus away from people with other medical concerns. Protect yourself and you greatly reduce the risk of you being hospitalised, thus having a positive impact on the healthcare system which is already struggling.


Awww... the nurses and doctors won't have time to make tik tok dance videos any more :(

The fact that the Australian government has proudly announced they have "secured 250m vaccines" for a population of 30m also concerns me. They're already talking about booster shots etc. Looks like they wanna jab us all with at least 8 doses.

I don't buy fruit from Singapore.... Singapore isn't as bad as other countries but I don't buy any canned fruit from Singapore. Australia is importing 30m doses of vaccine from Singapore. I don't want it.
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Your reply hardly makes sense.

If your concern isn't about you because you've had the vaccine.... why should I be prevented from working and paying taxes towards my lengthy hospital visit?

It all just doesn't make sense. So again, I'm stuck on;
If y'all have the vaccine and it works, why must I have the vaccine?
If the vaccine doesn't work, why must I have the vaccine?
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The only thing I know for sure is, I don't understand the terms and conditions and privacy policies I'm obliged to agree to before getting the vaccine.
Wholly Devil

31-Aug-2021 09:30:19 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 10:44:14 by Cape Killer

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Miles Prower said :

Because patients who are not vaccinated are filling beds in hospitals, shifting the focus away from people with other medical concerns. Protect yourself and you greatly reduce the risk of you being hospitalised, thus having a positive impact on the healthcare system which is already struggling.

500 people die daily in NSW alone.

The entire Nation has had 1000 deaths in two years, the majority of which had underlying conditions.

We're scared here.

It's an erosion of rights. That doesn't stop till until its challenged.
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31-Aug-2021 09:46:20 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 12:35:54 by Inspire you

Joel
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Inspire you said :
A consequence is punishment for a crime or action.

I'm not a criminal.

Where are the jobs for the unvaccinated?
I never said you were a criminal :P , and that is not the definition of a consequence. A consequence is simply a result or effect of an action or condition. In terms of jobs, I don’t know, but remote work which has obviously increased during Covid and such work wouldn’t put other people at risk of an individual’s choice to not get vaccinated.

Also, if you want to run the route of ‘experimental’, it’s important to note that Pfizer (and I’m sure they won’t be the only one going forward) is now fully approved in the US by the FDA.

Inspire you said :
So what is done with the unvaccinated if they aren't allowed to work?

Where do they go & what do they do each day?

Are they to be robbed of purpose?
We all live in a collective society, what is obviously a personal choice actually has real consequences for others as well. It’s not like having the freedom to drink alcohol which only directly impacts you and your health, it’s more like smoking (another personal choice) can have consequences for others around you through second hand smoke which is why in many places now, you cannot smoke in public areas.

It would be great if Covid was not transmissible so that it became a simple personal choice to either protect yourself or not, but that isn’t what we’re dealing with sadly :(
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31-Aug-2021 14:38:15 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2021 14:52:52 by Joel

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