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Jakey Boy said :
Alzheimer's is quite horrible. But luckily it improves a lot if those suffering are more active and see their family more often. Those that choose to barely even see them once a week are pretty horrible.

I think people are smart enough to see through this, but thanks for your input as it was actually on topic this time.

Alzheimer's is truly awful.

Many Alzheimer's sufferers lose all incentive for exercise or sociability. In the early to mid stages with mild to moderate dementia sufferers can benefit from cognitive stimulation activities.
Advances dementia can present a whole new set of problems. Many are resistant to many forms of stimuli. exercise, conversation, TV, even accompaniment from friends or relatives. The 'resistance' can take a number of forms, total disengagement, agitation, phyisical and verbal rage protest and even physical violence.
"Those that choose to barely even see them once a week" and the negative judgement they receive is not always deserved. To make such a judgement is indicative of the lack of knowledge of the problems involved.
Any actual visit from friends and relatives who attempt at engage with the sufferer can trigger some of the above symptoms. Often the none regular visits are not out of choice but out of necessity.

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05-Dec-2019 12:42:13

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My grandmother showed much improvements from visiting her daily :) 200M all skills, Trimmed comp Cape, MQC
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05-Dec-2019 12:48:32

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05-Dec-2019 12:50:05

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Jakey Boy said :
My grandmother showed much improvements from visiting her daily :)
The condition in early to mid stages with mild to moderate dementia often displays positive responses to stimuli such as friends and family visits. This is often interpreted as improvement, in reality it is often just a positive cognitive response.
In early to mid stages the condition has some extraordinary anomalies where the sufferer briefly appears totally without symptoms and can engage in normal functions. This is, again, taken as improvement but the condition will inevitably progress.
The progressive time scale varies widely from person to person. Advanced Dementia in a passive sufferer is not a very pleasant experience, but some of the more disturbing symptoms can be thoroughly shocking and heartbreaking to see.

05-Dec-2019 16:21:48

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When my Father-in-Law was in what I believe to be the mid stages he was lucid for perhaps 50% of the time. What I came to term as his 'absences' would sometimes happen in mid-sentence, he'd just glaze over or start rambling on about something entirely different.

I was never advised by the Alzheimer Specialist, or any of the Support Groups, and nor did it come up in conversation or discussion that the presence of a known person would have any influence on the periodicity or triggering of 'episodes' - not surprising really since the illness has unique effects for everyone. It is not a case of 'one size fits all'.

When he got to what I believe were the later stages (although it was the early part of the late stage as we lost him shortly after) ... this was the most shocking and distressing.

For instance, I would walk into the lounge, he'd look up, smile, say hello and 2 seconds later launch into a tirade of anger about some incident from his past that I was unaware of but, to him, I was that person who had enraged him 20, 30, 40 years ago.

Would a stranger, a Nurse or Care Assistant, have elicited such a response from him?
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05-Dec-2019 16:40:05

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Training has nothing to do with the bad treatment to the elderly - I am talking about nurse assistance here.

I went into a rest home at the age of 17/18. I was trained by nursing staff and other nurse assistance <- this is how most training in a rest home is done - it's the best training. If you go to a polytechnic to get trained you are not going to get the physical side of training, working with patients. I am not saying that getting a certificate in nurse assistant care or whatever the certificate is called isn't good, it just doesn't give you the practical side of training which you need.

The abuse in those videos that the elderly were receiving has nothing to do with training, it was simple abuse - dropping them into the chair, rough handling - there is so much abuse towards the elderly in private homes and in rest homes and it goes unchecked <- this can all go towards the angry in the elderly, I am not saying all the time, I am not saying all cases, I am just saying it's a possibility - I am just saying be aware.
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05-Dec-2019 17:52:13 - Last edited on 05-Dec-2019 17:55:12 by Dong U Dead

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Dong U Dead said :
Training has nothing to do with the bad treatment to the elderly - I am talking about nurse assistance here.

Lack of training and the reasons for that vital care omission may very well have a lot to do with poor quality care.
The role of care assistant that requires no formal training can present a number of problems. Most care assistants are very caring people and show a high degree of professionalism. However because of the nature of requirements for the role it unfortunately attracts some workforce elements that have little, if any, incentive to develop a care minded attitude to this very demanding and low paid role. Any disciplinary actions taken against care assistance are based on a employee disciplinary procedures and not professional qualification procedures. It matters little to the care assistant that they may lose their certificated licence to practise as there is none.

Not sure if it is the same all over the world but in the UK there is a specific role of 'Nurse Assistant'. There are certain rigorous training criteria needed to fulfil this role.

Physical care assistance is one of the high priority training modules for Nursing Assistance, as are many other personal care procedures.
Care Assistants get 'on the job training' that can vary from poor to outstanding, with no required level of competence.
The level of training instilled into the Nursing professional role goes a long way promote that continued professionalism.
The Care Assistant have none of that intensive training and can proceed into the job straight from a job centre. It works well for some who have the maturity to understand the demanding role and act accordingly. Sadly, some have low level maturity and little incentive to act professionally and will, through lack of intensive training, take short cuts in their work care practices.

06-Dec-2019 00:47:13

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