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Dong U Dead

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I have seen videos on the treatment of the elderly in rest homes (Alzheimer's or not) - this one video the way the nurse assistants, yes more than one treat the patient is shocking, absolutely shocking. The staff were saying that they had a lot of trouble with her, she was very angry, lashes out etc - this video proved the reason she was angry and lashing out - the way you are taken out of bed, the way you are fed, the way you are bathed, toileted, dressed and treated will cause adverse effects.

This particular case the judge as it went to court saw nothing wrong with the video, saw nothing wrong with how the nurse assistants treated this patient - I was shocked - it is sad.

I hope your grandma is treated like an angle!
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22-Nov-2019 20:05:13 - Last edited on 22-Nov-2019 20:06:04 by Dong U Dead

Averia Light

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I could imagine their frustration as they are literally being attacked and berated, but it also doesn't excuse their behavior. I think if there was increased awareness, these caregivers could expect such behavior as normal (as opposed to probably taking it personally) and react to it appropriately. It could even be a matter of not being trained properly. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

22-Nov-2019 23:04:15 - Last edited on 22-Nov-2019 23:05:05 by Averia Light

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Averia Light said :
I could imagine their frustration as they are literally being attacked and berated, but it also doesn't excuse their behavior. I think if there was increased awareness, these caregivers could expect such behavior as normal (as opposed to probably taking it personally) and react to it appropriately. It could even be a matter of not being trained properly.
These nurse assistance I have seen have manhandled patient <- it's shocking, same with family - a lot of the elderly are treated badly, elderly abuse is a common thing that occurs to often, it's hidden and often the patient can't communicate it. You can't always put an elderly persons' angry, violence, verbal abuse towards Alzheimer's or dementia <- I would say it's seldom this, especially if it's occurring constantly.

It's funny how abuse gets accepted, excuses made for it - it's sad and I believe that is how it goes on for so long.
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23-Nov-2019 18:48:36

Averia Light

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Understanding the various factors surrounding a bad situation doesn't necessarily mean anyone is excusing the behavior, rather it could be beneficial to analyze such situations for the root cause so that practical solutions may be researched and applied.

After all, I highly doubt a lot of these people go to nursing school and go thousands of dollars into debt just to abuse old people. That doesn't make sense. Are there abusive people in the field? Of course, just like any other field, however, not all that "manhandle" a patient are abusive. And I've seen it first hand, there are definitely times when a person has to physically stop ("manhandle" ) a patient.

As far as the claim that Alzheimer's patients are violent outside of the disease, that is possible, but if you suggesting that all Alzheimer's patients that display violent behaviors, especially constantly, are acting maliciously, then you clearly don't have an understanding of this disease and I would encourage you to do some actual research. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

23-Nov-2019 23:32:39 - Last edited on 24-Nov-2019 00:01:09 by Averia Light

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I worked as a care assistant previously, in care homes and nursing homes and i never saw bad behaviour towards ... and here i dont know what to say.... clients? patients? people? to me they were just people with extra needs.

The few that are in the public eye let down the many many caring staff that help look after individuals with their own needs.

I have an aunt that is in the mid stage of dementia. She is in a care/nursing home. The staff there are so paranoid that they may do the wrong thing,

It's difficult. Me and my mum have lasting power of attorney for not only her finances but also her health. Luckily or unluckily as the case may be she also has other life limiting illnesses. And I hope these get her before her dementia progresses, it's a heart wrenching illness. Remember Caz. Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

25-Nov-2019 01:07:16

Averia Light

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When Alzheimer's progresses to a point where you are put in a wing called "memory care", the only ones in there are nurses as far as I am aware. All the ones I saw had tags that stated they were nurses, so I am not sure how it is everywhere else as both my other grandma (the one with the grandpa who had Alzheimer's) and my grandpa (the one with the grandma who is currently in memory care for Alzheimer's) are both still very high functioning and independent.

I had an old friend that responded to medical codes at hospitals that helped give me the other side of this coin. It is a real risk to them and they are being attacked and berated, which comes with all the normal and natural human reactions and emotions related to being attacked. It is easy to be a keyboard warrior and cast down your judgment on these people, but that helps no one. There is an entire court process to determine their innocence or guilt, so the best way to move forward, imo, is to train these individuals or at least make people aware of the reality of Alzheimer's before they consider such a job. Whether that be actually talking about it, like this, or other ways, I think providing compassion for both sides of the situation is needed.

And, I hate to say it, but I agree with you Caz. I hope your aunt goes peacefully and with dignity. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

25-Nov-2019 01:30:31 - Last edited on 25-Nov-2019 01:32:12 by Averia Light

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Also, as a personal update, we are discussing bringing Thanksgiving to my grandma this year during the day as a group. I'm also making a cheesecake for my dad (cheesecake is something he can digest easily and has a ton of calories to touch on the cancer issue), but we also want to give a piece to grandma as it is a family recipe passed down from generation to generation.

This is probably going to be the last Thanksgiving we have with her, and we all know it, so it is going to be pretty hard. BUT she won't have sundowners and since there will be a group going, there will be more options to handle situations. We might even invite my brother, who we went no contact with a few years ago. Maybe it will be good for all of us to get together like we did before so many things happened.. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

25-Nov-2019 03:20:28

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