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Thanks for your extensive input and explaining why this is not how to make a suggestion. The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP
Thanks for your extensive input and explaining why this is not how to make a suggestion. The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP
26-Jun-2021 11:41:04
Hi, great thread. I especially love your point on removing RNG from PvP by making hit-chance 100% and focusing on the skill of using abilities and spells at the right time to avoid damage, as this is something I have wanted and thought about for a long long time independently from this thread. The proposal of making the damage range of abilities much narrower is something I'd love to see too as the RNG aspect of this is pretty terrible, but at least it's nowhere as bad as OSRS or Legacy Mode.
I have some additional suggestions which are simple, uncontroversial bug fixes and rebalances:
- It would be nice if Jagex could rebalance some existing abilities such as Berserk so players can't use it for insane burst damage which one-hits other players...
- The effects of Berserk also currently carry over if you use it in combat with an NPC and proceed to attack another player which is exploited by several people.
- Rebalancing certain PvP-only abilities which create a stalemate situation would be nice too, such as Siphon and Natural Instinct, as they are frustrating and the only effective way to counter them is to use them whenever your opponent does which results in no net gain or loss for either player.
- Giving Ranged a protection prayer-disabling ability that isn't channeled like Snipe would be nice too so other players can't run away to cancel it, as Ranged is currently at a disadvantage in this sense as a result
I have some additional suggestions which are simple, uncontroversial bug fixes and rebalances:
- It would be nice if Jagex could rebalance some existing abilities such as Berserk so players can't use it for insane burst damage which one-hits other players...
- The effects of Berserk also currently carry over if you use it in combat with an NPC and proceed to attack another player which is exploited by several people.
- Rebalancing certain PvP-only abilities which create a stalemate situation would be nice too, such as Siphon and Natural Instinct, as they are frustrating and the only effective way to counter them is to use them whenever your opponent does which results in no net gain or loss for either player.
- Giving Ranged a protection prayer-disabling ability that isn't channeled like Snipe would be nice too so other players can't run away to cancel it, as Ranged is currently at a disadvantage in this sense as a result
06-Aug-2021 11:49:48 - Last edited on 06-Aug-2021 11:57:47 by McSkittlez95
Well the idea is good, but if I understand the topic to 100%, this will just cause unfair battles within the wilderness, if your armor won't help you to block incoming damage in this case, a player equiped with dharok's battles someone with masterwork, this battle would turn unfair, since the dharok player would have the same odds as someone with masterwork.. I'm not sure if I understood the topic to 100% but dosn't that sound unfair?
In my opinion, the pvp battles is kinda unbalanced due to the damage scaling on abilities, such as Destroy, Rapid fire. I havn't tried grico in pvp, but I can just imagine what a devestating ability that could be in pvp. Since I do not do PVP alot except from legacy fights, with dharok etc.
But excuse me if I misunderstood the topic, this is just my point of view.
With best regards,
Adam
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In my opinion, the pvp battles is kinda unbalanced due to the damage scaling on abilities, such as Destroy, Rapid fire. I havn't tried grico in pvp, but I can just imagine what a devestating ability that could be in pvp. Since I do not do PVP alot except from legacy fights, with dharok etc.
But excuse me if I misunderstood the topic, this is just my point of view.
With best regards,
Adam
- No call, no message. One was in ego and the other one was in hope.
06-Aug-2021 11:59:58
Then berserk definitely has a problem. You shouldn't be able to rush people with it as you mentioned. I'm still not personally against the ability working in PVP though, as you can counter it by using a shield, or prayers, or KOing them while they've just recently zerked. A free 50% boost to DPS.
Take full advantage.
I personally like how melee is unique. In the past it was always inferior due to being the only style which couldn't attack at a distance - but made up for that with a wider variety of special attacks. You can still bind/freeze melee and that's still a disadvantage for them, but not as much as it once was. The fact that melee is more vulnerable (can't attack at a distance and increased damage taken when berserking) seem to be compensated by the increased burst damage that it has been given.
I'd say 5 seconds is enough time to react, just my opinion. This is considering that it's not at the very start of the fight of course. People entering PVP already zerked is a different story.
As for siphon and natural instinct, yes, if you and your opponent use them as often as each other, they will cancel out and the total adrenaline seems pointless if you look at it from purely a numbers at the end of a fight perspective, but where the differences lie are the short moments when actually using the abilities. For example - maybe your debilitate wouldn't be off cooldown in time, so you use siphon in order to stall their threshold ability - allowing debilitate to be usable by the time the opponent reaches 50% adrenaline. Or perhaps you want to unexpectedly gain a bit more adrenaline than your opponent is expecting, catching them off guard.
Yes, they cancel each other out in the long run, but they can be an interesting dynamic in the short term, in my opinion. KO potential is crazy in rs3, I wouldn't mind channeled prayer drops to reduce that slightly. Don't mind them all being instant either.
Agree with your last point. The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP
Take full advantage.
I personally like how melee is unique. In the past it was always inferior due to being the only style which couldn't attack at a distance - but made up for that with a wider variety of special attacks. You can still bind/freeze melee and that's still a disadvantage for them, but not as much as it once was. The fact that melee is more vulnerable (can't attack at a distance and increased damage taken when berserking) seem to be compensated by the increased burst damage that it has been given.
I'd say 5 seconds is enough time to react, just my opinion. This is considering that it's not at the very start of the fight of course. People entering PVP already zerked is a different story.
As for siphon and natural instinct, yes, if you and your opponent use them as often as each other, they will cancel out and the total adrenaline seems pointless if you look at it from purely a numbers at the end of a fight perspective, but where the differences lie are the short moments when actually using the abilities. For example - maybe your debilitate wouldn't be off cooldown in time, so you use siphon in order to stall their threshold ability - allowing debilitate to be usable by the time the opponent reaches 50% adrenaline. Or perhaps you want to unexpectedly gain a bit more adrenaline than your opponent is expecting, catching them off guard.
Yes, they cancel each other out in the long run, but they can be an interesting dynamic in the short term, in my opinion. KO potential is crazy in rs3, I wouldn't mind channeled prayer drops to reduce that slightly. Don't mind them all being instant either.
Agree with your last point. The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP
11-Aug-2021 03:46:51
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