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Amascutian

Amascutian

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Hello. Massive support for anything that attemps to bring back pvp. But let's face it, it's not gonna happen. This thread was created in 2016 and nothing has changed since that. What was the last time pvp got an update? 2011? And honestly, I don't beleive even an instanced Wilderness or any new mechanism would change the pvp situation. And it's because people don't want to do it anymore. Sorry.

12-Aug-2020 17:28:27 - Last edited on 12-Aug-2020 23:33:50 by Amascutian

Stoic n Vain

Stoic n Vain

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Thanks for the support, HellaRomeo.

It's not "people don't want to PVP" - end of conversation.
It's "why don't people want to PVP".

I believe, for the most part, I have answered that.

Stoic n Vain said :
Why Is the Wild Dead?


From what I can tell and how I see things, I believe that the wild is dead for these reasons:

- PVP is currently a zero-sum outcome
- Many people don't want to sacrifice time for PVP, because it stops or slows progression in other parts of the game, particularly XP and GP earning.
- Some aspects of PVP are hard to learn. Death costs money. Beginners go broke before they can advance and enjoy PVP.
- Here's the big one. Risk vs reward. You'll almost always make more money bossing than with PVP encounters. Bossing has less risk too. You can make a fair amount of cash from skilling, risking nothing at all. The wild is very risky and the reward simply doesn't justify that risk.
- The commonly toxic PVP community. Grievers, name callers, nsers, verbally abusive, narcissists.
- Losing bank, skull tricks, and accidental skulling.
- Unfavourable mechanics.
- When the wild becomes rewarding, alts and bots start appearing; game mechanics get exploited, boosted and abused, so Jagex is forced to nerf the content - at the expense of the players playing properly. Warbands and cursed energy gathering were both changed so that maxed mains could have a blood bath with defenseless low level pkers and skillers. As a result, combat level diversity was decimated.
Solutions! The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP

13-Aug-2020 04:51:00

Amascutian

Amascutian

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- Some people say it's evolution of c that is mainly resposible for the emptiness of the W. (or rather those who didn't want to adapt to it) It doesn't answer however why legacy worlds arent full of pkers.


- Zer0 sum outcome and big risks: true but people tend to risk bank in the pvp heaven OSRS and dying in f2p worlds isnt a big loss. I think pkers go to the Wilderness for the sake of fighting and not to get rich. I often get attacked in the Revenant cave and the pker knows he won't get anything but a full inventory of sharks.

- Toxicity: agree, you don't wanna know what I sometimes hear in clan wars ffa and Wilderness. I suggest everyone to turn off chat while pking and talk only if necessary Talking while pking is an unwise thing to do btw. There isnt much we can do about it - there are people who only go there to prove their superiority over others by nsing, 'exposing' etc. (I've made a thread proposing 'Rolepking' a friendly game as an alternative to pking)

- Cursed enrgy, demonic skull, warbands somewhat helped pvp but cursed bot killers still wont put up a fight against a pker. they simply run away. I like your idea about stackable cursed
gl.

15-Aug-2020 13:45:09 - Last edited on 15-Aug-2020 13:58:55 by Amascutian

Stoic n Vain

Stoic n Vain

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- That was a big reason for players leaving initially yes. The game changed. People who were enjoying the game how it was, left. Correct, legacy worlds did not bring them back.

- I think that elitism is really pushed on RS3, and it isn't as much on OSRS. You feel like you're falling behind if you're not gaining XP or GP on RS3, unfortunately.

- I'm not sure what can be done about such toxic players.

- True. Thank you :) The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP

20-Aug-2020 02:13:31

Mogardie
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Mogardie

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Jagex should bring back one PVP world where you gain 25% more skilling XP and you get double the chance at rare drops when killing bosses. Instances will no longer exist inside of these worlds and you can get pked when killing the boss. Also all weapons have reduced damaged inside of PVP so you can't 1 hit people with a zaros godsword. Maybe make PVP legacy only or have some new interesting combat mechanics which are easy to learn.

06-Oct-2020 05:23:54

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