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Alt1 should be banned! Y/N?
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Norse Druid
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Nah man that's a downvote.
I have ALWAYS used things like runehq and the like back in the day to do clues and puzzles. And they Do tell you what to do, this alt1 stuff just saves you time. Granted we have more complex things like the knots but still I think you're grossly exaggerating this.
"it just saves you time" pretty weak argument against something being classed as cheating, since that's kinda the whole point of a cheat. Yeah, it "tells you what to do", not in an informative way (like wiki/yt) but by on-screen clickable indicators, essentially turning the randomised part of your clue into a mindless game of whack-a-mole (with your cursor). Do you think it's "fair" that players are expected to pay 3.1m for a puzzle skip ticket (the official in-game solution for not wanting to solve your own clue) whilst others let a computer (alt-1) solve it for them? Or is it simply "their fault" for not finding this unofficial work-around themselves? I feel like these ought to be rhetorical questions, but apparently not! Hm, well, actually it's somewhat 50/50. Some players just don't care about degrading the game, as long as they get ahead, 'efficiency' isn't a magic word btw. Oh and what's funny is, you're actually making most of your clue money from skip tickets. So the irony is, you rely on others not using or knowing about Alt-1 for their high price. I'm not saying that's intentional, it's clearly not, it's just funny to think about. Anyway, it's a competitive advantage, whether they officially approve of it or not. And until they do I'd consider it a 'legal' cheat. This game is heading down the toilet anyway, integrity-wise. Lucky you! ya lazy ('efficient') little scapers!
only joking.
Meh, you do you. It's 'use at own risk' / they don't seem too bothered, so go nuts! It's still cheating though (or walking the line of the definition). So yeah, no 'gross exaggeration'. IMO Bob says:
Nah man that's a downvote.
I have ALWAYS used things like runehq and the like back in the day to do clues and puzzles. And they Do tell you what to do, this alt1 stuff just saves you time. Granted we have more complex things like the knots but still I think you're grossly exaggerating this.
"it just saves you time" pretty weak argument against something being classed as cheating, since that's kinda the whole point of a cheat. Yeah, it "tells you what to do", not in an informative way (like wiki/yt) but by on-screen clickable indicators, essentially turning the randomised part of your clue into a mindless game of whack-a-mole (with your cursor). Do you think it's "fair" that players are expected to pay 3.1m for a puzzle skip ticket (the official in-game solution for not wanting to solve your own clue) whilst others let a computer (alt-1) solve it for them? Or is it simply "their fault" for not finding this unofficial work-around themselves? I feel like these ought to be rhetorical questions, but apparently not! Hm, well, actually it's somewhat 50/50. Some players just don't care about degrading the game, as long as they get ahead, 'efficiency' isn't a magic word btw. Oh and what's funny is, you're actually making most of your clue money from skip tickets. So the irony is, you rely on others not using or knowing about Alt-1 for their high price. I'm not saying that's intentional, it's clearly not, it's just funny to think about. Anyway, it's a competitive advantage, whether they officially approve of it or not. And until they do I'd consider it a 'legal' cheat. This game is heading down the toilet anyway, integrity-wise. Lucky you! ya lazy ('efficient') little scapers!
only joking.
Meh, you do you. It's 'use at own risk' / they don't seem too bothered, so go nuts! It's still cheating though (or walking the line of the definition). So yeah, no 'gross exaggeration'. IMO Bob says:
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21-Aug-2022 18:51:12 - Last edited on 21-Aug-2022 18:59:09 by SlR
SlR
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Some content on Runescape is / was designed to be done by the player (nothing wrong with that). If you get stuck, read a guide and find out how to solve your problem. The wiki and youtube are great sources. If you don't fancy putting in the time, pay 3.1m and skip the puzzle, that's what they're there for. Don't go looking for third-party scripts on Google.
nobody is saying you should do that. just you
SlR said :
Eh? I can say I think it's 'cheating' just as you can say it isn't. Or are you being pedantic, saying it's not mentioned in the rules? No need to answer that. This thread is a place for people to voice their opinions about it. With our collective reasoning the 'powers that be' can make up their own minds up about it.
yes you can say you think its cheating. but you arent ill quote one post and highlight how you have not done this. you are asserting it is cheating. which is dishonest in this type of debate / discussion
Some content on Runescape is / was designed to be done by the player (nothing wrong with that). If you get stuck, read a guide and find out how to solve your problem. The wiki and youtube are great sources. If you don't fancy putting in the time, pay 3.1m and skip the puzzle, that's what they're there for. Don't go looking for third-party scripts on Google.
nobody is saying you should do that. just you
SlR said :
Eh? I can say I think it's 'cheating' just as you can say it isn't. Or are you being pedantic, saying it's not mentioned in the rules? No need to answer that. This thread is a place for people to voice their opinions about it. With our collective reasoning the 'powers that be' can make up their own minds up about it.
yes you can say you think its cheating. but you arent ill quote one post and highlight how you have not done this. you are asserting it is cheating. which is dishonest in this type of debate / discussion
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22-Aug-2022 12:06:53 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2022 12:08:27 by Tenebri
SlR
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"it just saves you time" pretty weak argument against something
only joking.
Meh, you do you. It's 'use at own risk' / they don't seem too bothered, so go nuts!
ive highlighted how you are asserting it. not you asserting your opinion.
"i think its cheating" is a lot differthing that "its still cheating though" "being classed as cheating"
so no you are not stating an opinion thats 100% clear. you are asserting a claim.
so back it up
"it just saves you time" pretty weak argument against something
being classed as cheating,
since that's
kinda the whole point of a cheat
. Yeah, it "tells you what to do", not in an informative way (like wiki/yt) but by on-screen clickable indicators, essentially turning the randomised part of your clue into a mindless game of whack-a-mole (with your cursor). Do you think it's "fair" that players are expected to pay 3.1m for a puzzle skip ticket (the official in-game solution for not wanting to solve your own clue) whilst others let a computer (alt-1) solve it for them? Or is it simply "their fault" for not finding this unofficial work-around themselves? I feel like these ought to be rhetorical questions, but apparently not! Hm, well, actually it's somewhat 50/50. Some players just don't care about degrading the game, as long as they get ahead, 'efficiency' isn't a magic word btw. Oh and what's funny is, you're actually making most of your clue money from skip tickets. So the irony is, you rely on others not using or knowing about Alt-1 for their high price. I'm not saying that's intentional, it's clearly not, it's just funny to think about. Anyway, it's a competitive advantage, whether they officially approve of it or not. And until they do I'd consider it a 'legal' cheat. This game is heading down the toilet anyway, integrity-wise. Lucky you! ya lazy ('efficient') little scapers!
only joking.
Meh, you do you. It's 'use at own risk' / they don't seem too bothered, so go nuts!
It's still cheating though
ive highlighted how you are asserting it. not you asserting your opinion.
"i think its cheating" is a lot differthing that "its still cheating though" "being classed as cheating"
so no you are not stating an opinion thats 100% clear. you are asserting a claim.
so back it up
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22-Aug-2022 12:10:42 - Last edited on 22-Aug-2022 12:11:23 by Tenebri
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