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Theos
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boidae said :
and why would anyone want disc items that arent from traditional runescape events

itll be like the games only based on mtx

plus games dont last when lots of things are out of reach


Whether items or limited or readily available doesn't affect the quantity of MTX Treasure Hunter promotions, or other limited cosmetic promotions. Discontinuing these cosmetics would help to ensure that they maintain value, with a likelihood of increasing participation of future TH promotions. People may be more inclined to buy Treasure Hunter keys if they know the tokens/items from it are likely to have some form of value.

Really, it would be a "win win" for Jagex in discontinuing or more intentionally thinking of how to reduce the oversaturation of these tokens. Preserving the value of these items will incentivize player participation in MTX. An increase of participation in MTX will ensure the company is generating revenue to meet these targets, and help to ensure the long-term survival of Runescape.
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11-Aug-2021 18:26:01

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Crispy v69 said :
i cba reading all of it read a decent chunk for it
but its a horrible idea a lot of people here are biased af
tokens r nothing but a pump and dump scheme by a certain few individuals
it will just get manipped more and more

tokens just need to be added to the oddment store and all the tokens should be removed imo.


Discontinued items are also collected, and in some cases hoarded. Do you consider that to be "okay", but have a particular disdain for token investors/collectors? People are quick to call others "biased", and try to undermine the validity of their assertions. Whether you agree or disagree with something, I would challenge you to also think that not all suggestions are rooted in financial stake. There's been conversation threads on the forums for years discussing suggesting reintroducing, discontinuing, and/or revamping the whole token system. To try to assert that folks are just "biased" is very dismissive, and ironically...also biased. ;)

I do agree with adding cosmetics to the oddment store instead of adding new tokens. I personally think there's too many tokens in the game currently, many of which have "junk" cosmetic status. Perhaps the concept of tokens made sense upon inception, but with the growing number in the game...Jagex needs to come up with a more refined strategy and purpose for these. There doesn't appear to be a clear, and consistent strategy regarding the future of tokens or the oddment store. There also isn't an exit for tokens in the game except for consumption, which is also problematic. What happens when there's 100,000 - half a million of a token in the game? Jagex should implement ways to give tokens some utility/use, whether it be through oddment conversion or another means. The recent oddment store update has also been disappointing considering there weren't any new additions; it was essential a visual overhaul and arguably one that is a less user friendly experience.
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11-Aug-2021 18:34:19

boidae
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lol the long term survival of runescape, you are aware jagex has been sold several times for profit, they only want more revenue to re sell again.

us players want a comfortable game to play, not one that costs an arm and leg so jagex can re sell

11-Aug-2021 18:43:10 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2021 18:43:49 by boidae

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Theos said :
boidae said :
and why would anyone want disc items that arent from traditional runescape events

itll be like the games only based on mtx

plus games dont last when lots of things are out of reach


Whether items or limited or readily available doesn't affect the quantity of MTX Treasure Hunter promotions, or other limited cosmetic promotions. Discontinuing these cosmetics would help to ensure that they maintain value, with a likelihood of increasing participation of future TH promotions. People may be more inclined to buy Treasure Hunter keys if they know the tokens/items from it are likely to have some form of value.

Really, it would be a "win win" for Jagex in discontinuing or more intentionally thinking of how to reduce the oversaturation of these tokens. Preserving the value of these items will incentivize player participation in MTX. An increase of participation in MTX will ensure the company is generating revenue to meet these targets, and help to ensure the long-term survival of Runescape.



Yea every game has discontinued items. They said years ago cosmetics don't make them much money unless its solomons store.
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11-Aug-2021 19:50:18

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boidae said :
and why would anyone want disc items that arent from traditional runescape events

itll be like the games only based on mtx

plus games dont last when lots of things are out of reach
I disagree. If you have one set of rares, then a new set released, then a new set, then a new, people are always buying in.

With more and more rares, everyone gets in, everyone has rising rare items, and there can be a very large supply just broken into many different items.

You're assuming there's this entrance time, then no one else gets in. What would be neat is if more and more and more rares were released. If using something like ice cubes 2.0 (Earthart ice cubes were 1.0), they'd be distributed.

Cracker wings seem like something I'll never get. Not a big deal, because I can just get other items.
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11-Aug-2021 22:03:02 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2021 22:03:48 by Trip180

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Every game seems to think rares are bad. As a result, every game is the same.

Runescape has, up until recently, been different. It has tradeable discontinued items. That uniqueness should be embraced.

It's no fun if new tokens are released that can be obtained at any time. It's only fun if you're there for a limited-time thing, then that's it. Then, on to the next event. And the next.

The 2020 beach event was fun, because the NPC suggested it was a limited time event, tokens gone for good. But then they returned. That's boring if they're always returning.

If you have repeated releases, every single player in rs could become a rich hoarder. It's like in real life, you can be the best mailman in your community. Another can be the best fireman. Another can be the best cook. Everyone has a specialty; everyone gets to be the best. No one has to be a loser. No one has to be left out.
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11-Aug-2021 22:05:24 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2021 22:07:37 by Trip180

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Crispy v69 said :
i cba reading all of it read a decent chunk for it
but its a horrible idea a lot of people here are biased af
tokens r nothing but a pump and dump scheme by a certain few individuals
it will just get manipped more and more

tokens just need to be added to the oddment store and all the tokens should be removed imo.
You certainly flip them. It's no different from rares.

Runescape is still around because of rares.
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11-Aug-2021 22:11:24 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2021 22:16:41 by Trip180

Conner 4Real
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Trip180 said :
It's only fun if you're there for a limited-time thing, then that's it.


This is fine if the item's aren't tradeable but when an item is tradeable and is never reintroduced then over time it becomes essentially unobtainable for newer/average players (like partyhats today).

Crispy v69 said :

Runescape is still around because of rares.


Hard disagree, less than .1% of the playerbase owns a rare.

11-Aug-2021 22:22:31 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2021 22:24:17 by Conner 4Real

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