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Tuffty
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The only people who are going to benefit from these are the people who can stock 100's if not 1000's of them and make them very limited to the market thus the price keeps going up and up until they get dumped.

I honestly do not think Jagex meant for these to make as much GP they are making these days. So for Jagex to say or drop hints that tokens will be re-released now and then keeps that market in check. :P

I do not know Jagex plans for the future of these tokens so right now it's all speculation on what may or may not happen.

Have to wait and see. ;)

PS. I don't personally see a need for any tokens in all honesty. After all they are for cosmetic things ingame made for fun. No one will pay 1-2-3 billion or more GP for a token just to use it. They pay that much to get the price up to resell. Comprehensive Account Security
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11-Aug-2021 11:44:56

ELITE STACK
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Tuffty said :
The only people who are going to benefit from these are the people who can stock 100's if not 1000's of them and make them very limited to the market thus the price keeps going up and up until they get dumped.

I honestly do not think Jagex meant for these to make as much GP they are making these days. So for Jagex to say or drop hints that tokens will be re-released now and then keeps that market in check. :P

I do not know Jagex plans for the future of these tokens so right now it's all speculation on what may or may not happen.

Have to wait and see. ;)

PS. I don't personally see a need for any tokens in all honesty. After all they are for cosmetic things ingame made for fun. No one will pay 1-2-3 billion or more GP for a token just to use it. They pay that much to get the price up to resell.


Rereleases or suggestion of them are based off hate. Everyone hated turkeys so they get rereleased. Rereleases will always be based off hate. I need my blue charms back.

11-Aug-2021 12:22:48

ELITE STACK
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Realistically people need something to play for other then dyes which are consumable and 50m-1b a token is nothing in today's economy. If alot of tokens are expensive it gives people an endgame goal to achieve. I am personally going for all token unlocks. I need my blue charms back.

11-Aug-2021 12:58:54

Theos
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I would be in favor of Jagex discontinuing tokens, under the criteria that a promotion has been available at least 2 times. With the economy and amount of GP/HR the average player is able to make in 2021...there isn't a shortage of coins. Elusive Treasure Hunter dyes, third-age, etc trade for hundreds of million and billions of GP in some cases. Why is there an "anti merchant" sentiment regarding new items becoming discontinued?

I think there's an ideological issue, where people assert merchanting and pvp as "bad". This is rooted in the idea that a player is "taking" from someone else. Players who invest in tokens are investing in something no different than coins, or cards in real life. Jagex has toyed around with the concept of discontinued items, and even explicitly released new ones this past decade. I think Jagex should be open to discontinuing tokens, *or* creating a "token sink" in the game where every token is able to be converted for a certain amount of oddments. It could be as simple as all pet tokens = 5,000 oddments, outfits, 2,500, etc. This would help ensure that tokens have a base floor price, and remain somewhat valuable.

As it currently stands, there's a lot of inconsistencies. Some tokens have reached billions in price without rerelease (or seldom rereleased) while there are other tokens which have reached "junk status" with prices around the 10k-20k gp mark. Players who often complain about the value of items being high tend to have an "anti-merchant", "anti investing", "anti hoarding" mindset. They tend to associate activities like "PVM" being "good" and merchanting being "bad". It isn't that black, and white. Jagex should take a more hands off approach, in my opinion regarding these items and allow the "player-run" economy function in that manner. Intentionally reintroducing tokens to the point where they become absolute junk is a waste of content, and development time.

I support the idea of discontinuing tokens.
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11-Aug-2021 13:07:35

ELITE STACK
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Yea there is alot of bias when it comes to tokens. If tokens were rereleased because people enjoyed them I would support it but the reason for rerelease or the suggestion of 1 is based off hate for tokens. I used to hate tokens several years back and wanted them to be worthless now I am different now. I also support the idea of discontinued tokens, but this will be called out for price manipulation. :) I need my blue charms back.

11-Aug-2021 13:24:32 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2021 13:29:40 by ELITE STACK

Trip180

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Tuffty said :
No one will pay 1-2-3 billion or more GP for a token just to use it. They pay that much to get the price up to resell. People do pay this.

Many have this uncontrollable demand for assassin walk. Even after it was announced returning, people are paying. Gem cape also has a high demand, but not like a walk.

I sold all 3 of my assassins, because they're returning. But others just had to have them. They knew what they were doing, weren't tricked. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity. :(

11-Aug-2021 13:27:19

Radyi
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Radyi said :
I think jagex wont ever discontinue tokens because they can just rerelease a promotion for expensive tokens for free money (people would be incentivised to buy keys for that 8b token purple, but less incentivised to buy bonds for gp)

Honestly I hope they rerelease the old untradeable discontinued items (like scythe etc) so everyone can enjoy them. Perhaps that could be another expensive thing on their loyalty store.


I don't see the fun in rereleased items. Beach tokens were rereleased helped me unlock them all and I don't see whats fun about them. I would like partyhats to be reintroduced though so everyone can enjoy them.

The difference between a partyhat and the beach tokens is jagex never meant for them to be discontinued, rather as a source of income, while partyhats were meant to be a bit of fun over christmas and ended up becoming sought after, thus jagex started making untradeable discontinued items (scythe etc) Fashionscapers definitely would like to use the bunny ears or old stuff in outfits and I think all players should have a chance, not just the few vets who were around during the events. I mean if partyhats were suddenly available as an untradeable item, it would definitely piss off a ton of paying members as it was stated they were permanently discontinued Mass contributor to deaths coffers.

11-Aug-2021 15:16:10

ELITE STACK
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Radyi said :
ELITE STACK said :
Radyi said :
I think jagex wont ever discontinue tokens because they can just rerelease a promotion for expensive tokens for free money (people would be incentivised to buy keys for that 8b token purple, but less incentivised to buy bonds for gp)

Honestly I hope they rerelease the old untradeable discontinued items (like scythe etc) so everyone can enjoy them. Perhaps that could be another expensive thing on their loyalty store.


I don't see the fun in rereleased items. Beach tokens were rereleased helped me unlock them all and I don't see whats fun about them. I would like partyhats to be reintroduced though so everyone can enjoy them.

The difference between a partyhat and the beach tokens is jagex never meant for them to be discontinued, rather as a source of income, while partyhats were meant to be a bit of fun over christmas and ended up becoming sought after, thus jagex started making untradeable discontinued items (scythe etc) Fashionscapers definitely would like to use the bunny ears or old stuff in outfits and I think all players should have a chance, not just the few vets who were around during the events. I mean if partyhats were suddenly available as an untradeable item, it would definitely piss off a ton of paying members as it was stated they were permanently discontinued


Partyhats were never intended to be discontinued on release it just happens they are now. How would it affect many players if only 1% own a partyhat? They can just add a partyhat as a purple reward on th and you will get tons of key buyers for 1. I need my blue charms back.

11-Aug-2021 16:58:00 - Last edited on 11-Aug-2021 16:58:50 by ELITE STACK

Crispy v69
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i cba reading all of it read a decent chunk for it
but its a horrible idea a lot of people here are biased af
tokens r nothing but a pump and dump scheme by a certain few individuals
it will just get manipped more and more

tokens just need to be added to the oddment store and all the tokens should be removed imo.

11-Aug-2021 17:18:07

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