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For the good of the community I will volunteer to take over all price check threads.
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23-Dec-2020 07:06:23

Yurple
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Tuffty said :

Word soon spreads that someone posts fake prices and the Community learn to ignore any posts/trades they post in the future.


I think a good majority of users who come here are "ignorant" users. Not in a pejorative sense, but in the fact that they briefly look here for a price or a sale and take things at face value without doing much research.

That'd make reputation an almost moot point if the user isn't familiar with people or the forums.
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30-Dec-2020 06:41:08

Surprised
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Yurple said :
Tuffty said :

Word soon spreads that someone posts fake prices and the Community learn to ignore any posts/trades they post in the future.


I think a good majority of users who come here are "ignorant" users. Not in a pejorative sense, but in the fact that they briefly look here for a price or a sale and take things at face value without doing much research.

That'd make reputation an almost moot point if the user isn't familiar with people or the forums.


Which ignorant user wakes up one fine morning, with a cuppa and goes. "Hmm I think I want a Partyhat. in fact I want a couple! :P

I get your point, but I don't know how many partyhats you've bought or sold in past year( I only say this in these sense that the community had become even smaller)
but at present people are more keen on doing research before buying than ever before, and reputations play a big part. Word of mouth goes a long way.
Go and see old threads of people doing PC and you'll see who were the people taken more seriously and why, albeit all of them had flaws.

We are trying to fix those flaws here, and
Tuffty
is SPOT ON on reputation playing a big part in how seriously people take your trades.

and even if we assume, there's tons of 'ignorant' players coming to forums to look for partyhat prices, Should we rather them have a fair view from many users and trades or send them the way of Scam artist Friend chats?

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04-Jan-2021 01:40:42 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2021 08:53:22 by Surprised

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Surprised said :
Yurple said :
Tuffty said :

Word soon spreads that someone posts fake prices and the Community learn to ignore any posts/trades they post in the future.


I think a good majority of users who come here are "ignorant" users. Not in a pejorative sense, but in the fact that they briefly look here for a price or a sale and take things at face value without doing much research.

That'd make reputation an almost moot point if the user isn't familiar with people or the forums.


Which ignorant user wakes up one fine morning, with a cuppa and goes. "Hmm I think I want a Partyhat. in fact I want a couple!
I don't know how many partyhats you've bought or sold in past year but at present people are more keen on doing research before buying than ever before, and reputations play a big part. Go and see old threads of people doing PC and you'll see who were the people taken more seriously and why, albeit all of them had flaws.

We are trying to fix those flaws here, and Tuffty is SPOT ON on reputation playing a big part in how seriously people take your trades.

and even if we assume, there's tons of 'ignorant' players coming to forums to look for partyhat prices, would you rather them have a fair view from many users and trades or send them the way of Scam artist Friend chats?

Suprised.


Couldnt have said it better.

when i am searching for something ive a list of people i dont trade. reason is either bad reputation or just trying to ask way tomuch for an item which i see as blatant scamming,
or public opinion.

If everyone would apply the above i think there is little room for abuse.

but thats how i deal with street trades. idk if that helps everyone in every situation.
trusting certain pc lists or prices of items or websites that dont belong to jagex will get you into trouble notice: external websites and trades are your responsibility, dont get fooled!.

04-Jan-2021 09:40:30

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This is one of the main reasons advertising FCs on price check threads, be it in OP's signature or in posts, is such a toxic thing, because they want new prey for them to take advantage of.

Which is why they advertise in game more desperately than coca cola does irl.

MONOPOLISATION OF PRICE CHECKING HAS TO END.

It's as simple as that.

Makes you wonder, Why? Why so desperate? image related. (Bots being used in w2 to advertise)

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05-Jan-2021 08:43:50 - Last edited on 05-Jan-2021 08:44:13 by Surprised

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Honestly, the fact that it has been allowed to go this long without any sort of proper moderation is shocking. Price checking has been solely controlled by a handful of players for quite some time. Anyone who understands even the basics of any monopoly and the human mind would realize that this is a recipe for disaster. If humans weren't so consistently and reliably prone to greed and underhandedness, then monopolies wouldn't be an issue. Monopolies have earned a bad reputation because of what happens with them in the hands of people. There is nothing inherently wrong with them until you add greed to the mix. Now with added
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08-Jan-2021 05:29:12 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2021 05:30:52 by Lelouch Vi B

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Lelouch Vi B said :
Honestly, the fact that it has been allowed to go this long without any sort of proper moderation is shocking. Price checking has been solely controlled by a handful of players for quite some time. Anyone who understands even the basics of any monopoly and the human mind would realize that this is a recipe for disaster. If humans weren't so consistently and reliably prone to greed and underhandedness, then monopolies wouldn't be an issue. Monopolies have earned a bad reputation because of what happens with them in the hands of people. There is nothing inherently wrong with them until you add greed to the mix.


Couldn't agree more.
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08-Jan-2021 11:12:45

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Lelouch Vi B said :
Monopolies have earned a bad reputation because of what happens with them in the hands of people. There is nothing inherently wrong with them until you add greed to the mix.
I disagree. Monopolies are bad even without greed, as a general rule. Unrelated comment to this thread.
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08-Jan-2021 18:27:24 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2021 18:28:29 by Trip180

Lelouch Vi B
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Trip180 said :
Lelouch Vi B said :
Monopolies have earned a bad reputation because of what happens with them in the hands of people. There is nothing inherently wrong with them until you add greed to the mix.
I disagree. Monopolies are bad even without greed, as a general rule. Unrelated comment to this thread.


Technically not true. Monopolies are almost impossible to exist without greed, as they can mostly only be maintained through greed. However, a monopoly is simply a commodity or service that is controlled by a single entity. A village fisherman has a monopoly. This is not an issue until that fisherman tries to leverage his monopoly to unfairly trade, or attempts to maintain that monopoly by preventing others from performing the same job. It is entirely possible for a monopoly to exist simply because no one else wants to do a certain job. It is not a problem until the person who holds it decides, either out of greed or malice, to leverage it. In modern history, most all monopolies have been bad, but again, it's mainly a result of greed, as greed is what made them monopolies in the first place.
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