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The original way R Quark was started is I'd post my pricing lists to Charm Quark's thread. Each time a new lister took over, he'd use my lists from the forums. He'd post the updated lists, and I'd use that when I logged in.
Prices became so clear that margins were crushed. Merchants could no longer scam players, because everyone knew prices accurate within a mil. Everyone had the latest date.
It got so bad that many people quit. Merchants quit. That's the impact of pricing fc, at least when they're working. The RS economy is very different now; so, maybe pricing fc can no longer work well now. But they did work extremely well for everyone in runescape, except for merchants who could no longer make an easy living. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
Prices became so clear that margins were crushed. Merchants could no longer scam players, because everyone knew prices accurate within a mil. Everyone had the latest date.
It got so bad that many people quit. Merchants quit. That's the impact of pricing fc, at least when they're working. The RS economy is very different now; so, maybe pricing fc can no longer work well now. But they did work extremely well for everyone in runescape, except for merchants who could no longer make an easy living. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
21-Dec-2020 10:36:03
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oh and if you believe those lists need to be propagated, then let them be propagated within that FC instead of official price check threads. They need to be written down somewhere in the RS forums. Absolutely anywhere is fine.
If I log out. Who gets my list? No one. You don't understand how pricing FC work.
Jagex has tried to allow for a separate area of the forums for prices. Then it moved them back. If you want to move them again, that's fine. But people will just go there for pricing and ignore the price threads.
All of this has been done before though. As I recall, pricing fc lists might have been moved twice, each time the FMods fussing that something wasn't done right.
Whatever the rules are changed to, there needs to be some location for pricing lists. Merchants shouldn't have 20% margins. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
oh and if you believe those lists need to be propagated, then let them be propagated within that FC instead of official price check threads. They need to be written down somewhere in the RS forums. Absolutely anywhere is fine.
If I log out. Who gets my list? No one. You don't understand how pricing FC work.
Jagex has tried to allow for a separate area of the forums for prices. Then it moved them back. If you want to move them again, that's fine. But people will just go there for pricing and ignore the price threads.
All of this has been done before though. As I recall, pricing fc lists might have been moved twice, each time the FMods fussing that something wasn't done right.
Whatever the rules are changed to, there needs to be some location for pricing lists. Merchants shouldn't have 20% margins. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
21-Dec-2020 10:38:07 - Last edited on 21-Dec-2020 10:39:41 by Trip180
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Also I don't understand why you want lists so bad as if they are an authoritative thing and it would be impossible to trade outside them, desperate sellers and buyers will always exist. It would be much more difficult to trade without them. What you'd bring about is for prices to be unknown for those of us who don't use discord.
Merchants make too much money as it is. Why increase margins further? You use discord. Not everyone does. It is not only a matter of desperate buyers/sellers. The issue is also a lack of pricing information. People are essentially being scammed by merchants right now.
Pricing fc cannot work without using either discord or the RS forums to record lists. Pricing fc will never work as well as they did in the past. The market has changed, and there are fewer volunteers. But they are still a better system for those of us who refuse to use discord.
They are better for ge items, maybe not above-max items. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
Also I don't understand why you want lists so bad as if they are an authoritative thing and it would be impossible to trade outside them, desperate sellers and buyers will always exist. It would be much more difficult to trade without them. What you'd bring about is for prices to be unknown for those of us who don't use discord.
Merchants make too much money as it is. Why increase margins further? You use discord. Not everyone does. It is not only a matter of desperate buyers/sellers. The issue is also a lack of pricing information. People are essentially being scammed by merchants right now.
Pricing fc cannot work without using either discord or the RS forums to record lists. Pricing fc will never work as well as they did in the past. The market has changed, and there are fewer volunteers. But they are still a better system for those of us who refuse to use discord.
They are better for ge items, maybe not above-max items. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
21-Dec-2020 11:22:38 - Last edited on 21-Dec-2020 11:23:32 by Trip180
To use one example though,
remember when blue's price changed recently? You offered me 8+ white, which would have been a good price. I didn't take it, but the only way to know blue had changed was to use discord.
There wasn't a fake price, weren't any prices, was zero information to signal that blue's pricing had changed.
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What you are suggesting:
*Ban pricing FC (while saying they are not banned).
*Make it too difficult for most to post prices (while saying this isn't the case).
Essentially ending the RS forums and mandating that all must use discord for information.
The best way to see the fruits of your suggestions are to have them implemented. But if players go to discord, more are just going to rwt and get hacked. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
remember when blue's price changed recently? You offered me 8+ white, which would have been a good price. I didn't take it, but the only way to know blue had changed was to use discord.
There wasn't a fake price, weren't any prices, was zero information to signal that blue's pricing had changed.
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What you are suggesting:
*Ban pricing FC (while saying they are not banned).
*Make it too difficult for most to post prices (while saying this isn't the case).
Essentially ending the RS forums and mandating that all must use discord for information.
The best way to see the fruits of your suggestions are to have them implemented. But if players go to discord, more are just going to rwt and get hacked. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.
21-Dec-2020 11:34:00
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