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PepeAngilo

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Trip180 said :
It’s unfair to destroy his account like that. He earned it over years of play.

Jagex needs to attract and retain new players, while keeping the old.

Can you expand on how this is destroying his account? Are they removing skill levels? are they removing kill count on bosses? are they removing achievements? To me, that is the game. The rest is just a fantasy some players decided to create among themselves to feel "superior" as he mentioned in his previous posts.

Jagex will retain far more players by releasing the items they ask for. The mistake hoarders made was thinking that they were in a safe zone manipulating prices. What they did not realize was that smaller population of players hoarding items meant fewer people Jagex have to worry about quitting the game if they decide to rerelease.

By the way, I own rares. I simply do not care to share the joy with other players as I was taught that sharing is caring when I was growing up.

18-Nov-2021 16:12:03

Trip180

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I doubt you have a bank like Sea King’s. What matters is what older players want, not just what you want. Thousands of hours have been spent getting rares. It’s an achievement you might not recognize but one nonetheless.

New rares are great, welcomes new players into the nft game. Old rares are old rares. Make them untradeable if you dont like their value, but don’t make them 200m each. It would kill this game.

Keep old players + attract new players + retain those new players = win. I cannot for the life of me manage to catch Covid. Perhaps it's because I didn't get vaxxed? The travails of those lacking immunity.

18-Nov-2021 16:18:37

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2020

01 Partyhat

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As of 9:03am pst there are a total of 103,745 total players online (per runescapes main website). Of those total players there are 76,293 playing OSRS. So that means there are a total of 27,452 players playing RS3, and of those players there are 19,611 on members worlds (I just went through and added up all the players online in the members worlds). I'm sure there will be more accounts come online during this Golden Partyhat event, but this can give you an rough guestimate on the amount of Gold Partyhats to expect to see entered into the game.

In the past I have added up the total number of players online on f2p and p2p worlds on rs3 to see if the difference between total OSRS players and total players online was how many people that play rs3 and my calculations were correct. The majority of RS players play OSRS. Thus meaning that there will be less Gold Partyhats intorduced into the game than some people on here posting believe. Yes that number can still be high, but there are not going to be 100k Gold Partyhats introduced into the game. I don't even see 40k hats introduced into the game.

Another point I would like to make. Not everyone that gets a Gold Partyhat will be fine with just that hat. I myself will enjoy owning one, but it will not stop me from striving to get one of the OG partyhats at all. It will however tide me over until I can purchase an OG hat.

Everyone getting a GPH knows the rareity of the OGs so I do not think this will ultimately effect the prices of the OGs too much if any. I could see this new hat beeing the "boost" of wealth that some players need/want toward their goals.

18-Nov-2021 17:17:09

Destruction

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01 Partyhat said :
As of 9:03am pst there are a total of 103,745 total players online (per runescapes main website). Of those total players there are 76,293 playing OSRS. So that means there are a total of 27,452 players playing RS3, and of those players there are 19,611 on members worlds (I just went through and added up all the players online in the members worlds). I'm sure there will be more accounts come online during this Golden Partyhat event, but this can give you an rough guestimate on the amount of Gold Partyhats to expect to see entered into the game.

In the past I have added up the total number of players online on f2p and p2p worlds on rs3 to see if the difference between total OSRS players and total players online was how many people that play rs3 and my calculations were correct. The majority of RS players play OSRS. Thus meaning that there will be less Gold Partyhats intorduced into the game than some people on here posting believe. Yes that number can still be high, but there are not going to be 100k Gold Partyhats introduced into the game. I don't even see 40k hats introduced into the game.

Another point I would like to make. Not everyone that gets a Gold Partyhat will be fine with just that hat. I myself will enjoy owning one, but it will not stop me from striving to get one of the OG partyhats at all. It will however tide me over until I can purchase an OG hat.

Everyone getting a GPH knows the rareity of the OGs so I do not think this will ultimately effect the prices of the OGs too much if any. I could see this new hat beeing the "boost" of wealth that some players need/want toward their goals.

It can't give rough estimate as that doesn't count ALL accounts that logged in that day. Also, several groups will come from osrs to rs to get it. Don't forget alternative accounts.
40K? There are way more active members than that so that number will be easily reached, especially because there's 42 days to do the event.

The action or process of causing so much damage to something that it no longer exists or cannot be repaired.

18-Nov-2021 17:28:00

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2013

LovveL

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I don't like how most people who're responding to Sea King are making personal attacks rather than responding to his arguments with counter arguments. Not very constructive.

I very much agree with this statement: "Being poor on RS is a temporary thing, but changing the structure of the game is a permanent thing." but I have hopes and believe that this is a one-time thing regarding phats and it's "only" because it's 20 years anniversary.
I really don't think this will damage the original phats (maybe yellow temporarily) but doing it over and over definitely would imo. Rank #56 Overall. 8000/1****? Hard caskets stacked. 7000/8****? Elite caskets stacked.
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18-Nov-2021 19:18:30

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2007

4p

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01 Partyhat said :
As of 9:03am pst there are a total of 103,745 total players online (per runescapes main website). Of those total players there are 76,293 playing OSRS. So that means there are a total of 27,452 players playing RS3, and of those players there are 19,611 on members worlds (I just went through and added up all the players online in the members worlds). I'm sure there will be more accounts come online during this Golden Partyhat event, but this can give you an rough guestimate on the amount of Gold Partyhats to expect to see entered into the game.

In the past I have added up the total number of players online on f2p and p2p worlds on rs3 to see if the difference between total OSRS players and total players online was how many people that play rs3 and my calculations were correct. The majority of RS players play OSRS. Thus meaning that there will be less Gold Partyhats intorduced into the game than some people on here posting believe. Yes that number can still be high, but there are not going to be 100k Gold Partyhats introduced into the game. I don't even see 40k hats introduced into the game.

I understand what you're trying to say, but it's much more complex than that.

When those 19,611 people go to bed, another set of players replace them. But it's also not that simple either. What is the average amount of play time for a player? If it's 2hrs, for example, then there are 19,611 unique players every 2hrs on average, meaning 12 'sets' of 19,611 players in a 24hr period. Multiply 19,611 by 12 and you get 235,332 unique members playing each day.

Also, there are websites with that historic data available. In April 2020 there were an average of 45,500 players online all the time for Archaeology release. With a 2hr average example again, that's 546,000 players each day.

My numbers are just examples, I don't know if there is any way of knowing, but adding up members worlds right this second isn't accurate enough.

18-Nov-2021 19:27:16

Destruction

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LovveL said :
I don't like how most people who're responding to Sea King are making personal attacks rather than responding to his arguments with counter arguments. Not very constructive.

I very much agree with this statement: "Being poor on RS is a temporary thing, but changing the structure of the game is a permanent thing." but I have hopes and believe that this is a one-time thing regarding phats and it's "only" because it's 20 years anniversary.
I really don't think this will damage the original phats (maybe yellow temporarily) but doing it over and over definitely would imo.

Yeah, Josh said that Sea King want prices to stay high while he's trying to pay pennies for Yellow now, guy is literally trying to buy real partyhat 9-10B under current market value lol.
We can go in circles like this even though I do not agree with some of the things that Sea King said, for example his numbers of hats are very clueless and off but some things are very valid. It's about integrity and history for me personally, not the prices.
I also have rares including partyhats and I do support this idea but like I said before, probably not the way to do it.

The action or process of causing so much damage to something that it no longer exists or cannot be repaired.

18-Nov-2021 19:41:32 - Last edited on 18-Nov-2021 19:42:07 by Destruction

Oct

2019

Sea King

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LovveL said :
I don't like how most people who're responding to Sea King are making personal attacks rather than responding to his arguments with counter arguments. Not very constructive.

I very much agree with this statement: "Being poor on RS is a temporary thing, but changing the structure of the game is a permanent thing." but I have hopes and believe that this is a one-time thing regarding phats and it's "only" because it's 20 years anniversary.
I really don't think this will damage the original phats (maybe yellow temporarily) but doing it over and over definitely would imo.

Thanks! It's unfortunate that the Internet has no filters. There will always be people who have no serious stake in the game/community (like in IRL) and just want to get free st00f/handouts by any means possible. Many who want a gold phat right now is hoping that it would be a one-time thing so that they own something exclusive that later players won't be able to obtain without hard work/spending lots of money. But by showing support for gold phat, you are also signaling to Jagex that it's okay to do this many times more.

If gold phat ever achieves any significant value, then it will automatically price out some players, who will of course chant "death to gold phat" and demand that there be a "silver or black phat". And, if Jagex bows to that kind of rhetoric, the cycle repeats until the word "rare" loses all meaning entirely because everyone with a few mill can get to own one.

I'm not worried about classic phats or rares. It doesn't take anyone more than 1 second to notice whether you are wearing a genuine 2001 classic phat vs. a 2021 knockoff designed for the masses. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

18-Nov-2021 19:48:22

PepeAngilo

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Trip180 said :
I doubt you have a bank like Sea King’s.

Who cares? I mentioned that I own rares to emphasize that I don't care of any rerelease/release, because I am not hoarding/owning with the intent to "feel superior" in an online game lmao. I own rares because of fashionscape/nostalgia, or simply because I bought them long ago and never needed to sell them to upgrade armour/weapon that I actually use while pvming.

But for real, again with the bank flex? If you think that matters, you should revise yourself lol

Trip180 said :
What matters is what older players want, not just what you want. Thousands of hours have been spent getting rares. It’s an achievement you might not recognize but one nonetheless.

Really? what older players want? I am pretty sure even with that terrible logic behind, you will still find that majority of older players do not own a phat/rare and will want them introduced to the game again. Do you want to propose a poll just like Jagex did with OSRS? I bet you will find the results amusing lol. But of course you would not want that since you want to keep your precious (LOTD voice) all by yourself.

18-Nov-2021 20:03:13

Oct

2019

Sea King

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Old rares function as an unique store of wealth, and importantly, progress in a game that routinely devalues EXP and other items used in skilling/PVMing. When I played RS back in 2006, Slayer levels were crazy hard to gain, but now you can get 99 slayer in 1 year with ZERO combat by just using daily keys and other promos. Not surprisingly, there have been complaints about this practice and MTX (and hence why a bunch of players quit to play a different game instead).

Just look at DXP events, it's everywhere now. 4 times a year plus the DXP bombs so you can have your own personal DXP events whenever you want.

However, blue phat (or a similar rare) was hard to get back in 2006. It's also hard to get in 2021. It's an universal achievement that keeps a lot of old players going and motivates new players and promotes a sustainable player base. A lot of other popular games have died off because they couldn't keep a sustainable player base.

Why are phats worth billions? Well, maybe it has something to do with the fact that it takes almost nothing to make millions nowadays. For example, just try the vis wax machine, it gives you free 1m in 10 seconds. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

18-Nov-2021 20:06:35 - Last edited on 18-Nov-2021 20:21:04 by Sea King

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