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Aren't Laagues, DMM and other pay-to-play game modes part of OSRS? How can you tell us OSRS is free to play on one hand and refuse to admit most of the content including, of course, Leagues/DMM etc included aren't f2p on the other?
It won't matter what your personal opinion regarding f2p is, the most important thing is how new and long lapsed player think if Jagex's games are really f2p. Do they really think the games are f2p when they just leave Tutorial Island and see and try to pickpocket a man in Lumbridge and... bummer... you need to pay $12.5r? Do they really think the games are f2p when they are brutally stopped by Shanty when trying to cross to the Desert and maybe take a look at Tombs of Amascut?
Come on, don't just tell them OSRS FSW is free to play on one hand and the man they can't pickpocket and the desert sand they want to build a castle with are irrelevant on the other.
If the new and returning players happen to be players in games with similar membership model like WoW, it will be much worse as WoW doesn't call themselves f2p but still offer every player days of free game play in Azeroth until they hit the level cap.
Self-proclaimed f2p won't age well in this truly f2p era. The only reason why Jagex still call their games f2p is because regulations haven't got to that part... yet. But in the future when games are required to be enlisted on the likes of Askforgames.com, they will have to show exactly what are free or not to the consumers.
The fact that even Ironman asked for and are allowed to buy MTX benefits like Legendary Pets, cosmetics and such clearly show us MTX is no longer an issue to plenty of players in this modern gaming era.
Aren't Laagues, DMM and other pay-to-play game modes part of OSRS? How can you tell us OSRS is free to play on one hand and refuse to admit most of the content including, of course, Leagues/DMM etc included aren't f2p on the other?
It won't matter what your personal opinion regarding f2p is, the most important thing is how new and long lapsed player think if Jagex's games are really f2p. Do they really think the games are f2p when they just leave Tutorial Island and see and try to pickpocket a man in Lumbridge and... bummer... you need to pay $12.5r? Do they really think the games are f2p when they are brutally stopped by Shanty when trying to cross to the Desert and maybe take a look at Tombs of Amascut?
Come on, don't just tell them OSRS FSW is free to play on one hand and the man they can't pickpocket and the desert sand they want to build a castle with are irrelevant on the other.
If the new and returning players happen to be players in games with similar membership model like WoW, it will be much worse as WoW doesn't call themselves f2p but still offer every player days of free game play in Azeroth until they hit the level cap.
Self-proclaimed f2p won't age well in this truly f2p era. The only reason why Jagex still call their games f2p is because regulations haven't got to that part... yet. But in the future when games are required to be enlisted on the likes of Askforgames.com, they will have to show exactly what are free or not to the consumers.
The fact that even Ironman asked for and are allowed to buy MTX benefits like Legendary Pets, cosmetics and such clearly show us MTX is no longer an issue to plenty of players in this modern gaming era.
27-Aug-2022 17:19:02 - Last edited on 27-Aug-2022 17:36:00 by Dilbert2001
You do raise some interesting points, and I'll try to entertain them as if I were walking in a lapsed player's shoes here. (Let's be clear though, a lapsed player may have expectations of a newer game in the industry -AND- will certainly have previous experience with RS at the same time!) For a straight up "new" player - I can see where the individual might think too much content is gated behind a paywall. (We were all new players walking up to the Taverley gate once!) When you're talking about a group, opinions are subjective after all.
I don't expect any player, new or lapsed, to want to jump into Leagues or DMM immediately if they engage with Fresh Start Worlds on a new account simply because that new account has so much progress it will need taken care of in the meantime. That's not to mention, that Leagues or DMM are aimed at experienced players who understand the mechanics of Old School RS in its present form and are trying to compete to be the very best. (DMM being more focused on said competitive aspect than Leagues.)
I also don't expect a lapsed player in particular to object with not being able to pickpocket an NPC or enter the Kharidian Desert right off the bat. They have already experienced playing RuneScape before, and probably already understand the concept of certain content being subscription based within the free experience. Raids are closer to endgame content, so there's no feasible way a lapsed player would want to experience ToA unless they are very recently lapsed players who have significant Old School RuneScape experience already.
With those examples in mind - how can I answer your questions?
Are Leagues and DMM a part of OSRS? - Yes, but it may distract from a fresh account's progress. Playing the seasonal content here is more of a dilemma for experienced players.
Can you call RuneScape F2P? Yes, even with some content pay-walled. There is no "hard-stop" in the experience, just restrictions.
I don't expect any player, new or lapsed, to want to jump into Leagues or DMM immediately if they engage with Fresh Start Worlds on a new account simply because that new account has so much progress it will need taken care of in the meantime. That's not to mention, that Leagues or DMM are aimed at experienced players who understand the mechanics of Old School RS in its present form and are trying to compete to be the very best. (DMM being more focused on said competitive aspect than Leagues.)
I also don't expect a lapsed player in particular to object with not being able to pickpocket an NPC or enter the Kharidian Desert right off the bat. They have already experienced playing RuneScape before, and probably already understand the concept of certain content being subscription based within the free experience. Raids are closer to endgame content, so there's no feasible way a lapsed player would want to experience ToA unless they are very recently lapsed players who have significant Old School RuneScape experience already.
With those examples in mind - how can I answer your questions?
Are Leagues and DMM a part of OSRS? - Yes, but it may distract from a fresh account's progress. Playing the seasonal content here is more of a dilemma for experienced players.
Can you call RuneScape F2P? Yes, even with some content pay-walled. There is no "hard-stop" in the experience, just restrictions.
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27-Aug-2022 18:31:33
Well see, that's the interesting thing right? -We- don't know what results Jagex collected from the survey, so while you could be right, you could also be wrong. This is -further- made a wash by the fact that there isn't a consistent lean from Jagex one way or the other, as Old School's FSWs are Free while RS3's aren't. There just -isn't- a way for us to now what was exactly asked of those in the survey, and what their answers were, until Jagex chooses to share the results with us -or- the products become more consistent throughout the company line.
If lapsed players are -willing- to pay for RuneScape, then why have a Free experience in Old School?..and if they aren't, then why force them to subscribe in RS3? Don't tell me Jagex specified questions between the two games unless you have some sources to back it up.
If they can't participate in Leagues or DMM, then they can't be distractions now can they?
It truly -isn't- relevant, just like how you won't need anything past the Shantay Pass to complete Dragon Slayer and wear full rune.
If lapsed players are -willing- to pay for RuneScape, then why have a Free experience in Old School?..and if they aren't, then why force them to subscribe in RS3? Don't tell me Jagex specified questions between the two games unless you have some sources to back it up.
If they can't participate in Leagues or DMM, then they can't be distractions now can they?
It truly -isn't- relevant, just like how you won't need anything past the Shantay Pass to complete Dragon Slayer and wear full rune.
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27-Aug-2022 20:58:10 - Last edited on 27-Aug-2022 21:03:05 by H 1 L D A
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