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Aqua Star

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Tom Grey said :
Easy fix to comp cape turned into this....sigh. No polls, no jmod interactions. Do they even read these thread after they post them. Reminds me of the mtx apologies.

They might poll some redesigned quest capes Lore Tier capes that nobody asked for and everybody said they don't want and nobody will need to wear due to them having no stats or teleports next month maybe if they're not busy on holiday. Now what's an unfun environment when you talk to people and see nonsense being said and stuff like that

18-Mar-2019 23:34:13

Tom Grey

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Aqua Star said :
Tom Grey said :
Easy fix to comp cape turned into this....sigh. No polls, no jmod interactions. Do they even read these thread after they post them. Reminds me of the mtx apologies.

They might poll some redesigned quest capes Lore Tier capes that nobody asked for and everybody said they don't want and nobody will need to wear due to them having no stats or teleports next month maybe if they're not busy on holiday. Exactly my thoughts. instead of comp cape will we now have 4 comp capes (1 max with stats and 3 cosmetic without).

I am not a fan of striving for something that gives no inherent benefit. Also more than certain that new capes will come out looking worse than any sgs outfit cape slot item you can buy. So what is going to be the point in going for them. If they want to screw over people who go for cosmetics, put requirements on trim comp and save yourself some time. But how is having dozens of cosmetic capes will solve any problems?

18-Mar-2019 23:59:43

Aqua Star

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Oh...

They're gonna sell skill capes and max capes and comp capes on solomons. We all knew this day would come. Now what's an unfun environment when you talk to people and see nonsense being said and stuff like that

19-Mar-2019 00:17:47

Rikornak
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Tom Grey said :
Aqua Star said :
Tom Grey said :
Easy fix to comp cape turned into this....sigh. No polls, no jmod interactions. Do they even read these thread after they post them. Reminds me of the mtx apologies.

They might poll some redesigned quest capes Lore Tier capes that nobody asked for and everybody said they don't want and nobody will need to wear due to them having no stats or teleports next month maybe if they're not busy on holiday. Exactly my thoughts. instead of comp cape will we now have 4 comp capes (1 max with stats and 3 cosmetic without).

I am not a fan of striving for something that gives no inherent benefit. Also more than certain that new capes will come out looking worse than any sgs outfit cape slot item you can buy. So what is going to be the point in going for them. If they want to screw over people who go for cosmetics, put requirements on trim comp and save yourself some time. But how is having dozens of cosmetic capes will solve any problems?

Two tiers just are not enough to be fair to all content the game has. I am fairly sure not even 3 would be, that's why they're considering an hypothetical fourth tier, which just would award titles. It's not just about tons of requirements missing, it's also about disentangling the random mess the current (trimmed) comp is. Big plus for the new system also would be they could easily extend it then for other kinds of content.

If you don't like to do something (because it gives you no inherent benefit) - why do it then? You clearly are no completionist (even though you might be able to wear the current cape), still you seem to want to go for something that is intended for those having completed the game. There are still four capes/metas for you to strive for: Lore T1, Skills T1, Combat T1, Combat T2 - those will give you passive perks or combat stats. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

19-Mar-2019 05:51:46

Rikornak
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When the new capes focus on achievements rather than completables (which was the intention of the original comp after all) stuff like scoring high in a round of a minigame despite it doesn't unlock anything, talking to some random dude while having an asininily overpriced armour equipped or killing all bosses once also would have more justification. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

19-Mar-2019 05:55:16 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2019 06:09:11 by Rikornak

Great Minds
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Freezing Existing Comp & Trimmed Comp capes
We’ve spoken about all the improvements we’re making, but what about the existing Completionist and Trimmed Completionist Capes? We don’t want to abandon them, or devalue the accomplishments of the players who have them.

So, our current pitch for the existing Comp and Trimmed Comp would be to effectively ‘freeze’ them. The current Comp Cape and Trimmed Comp Cape would become ‘Legacy’ versions of themselves and be renamed appropriately. These Legacy versions would:
Keep all their existing requirements
Would still be obtainable and could still be worn post-rework.
Would never have any of their requirements added to, changed, or removed.
Wouldn’t have stats or non-stat benefits, but you’d still have access to them thanks to the changes proposed earlier in this document.

This means that, if you already have a Comp or Trimmed Comp Cape, you get to keep it and, if you’re close to getting one, you can keep working towards it.



This is still my problem.
T2 = comp
T3 = Trimmed comp.
Easy as that.

19-Mar-2019 07:04:31

Rikornak
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Great Minds said :
Freezing Existing Comp & Trimmed Comp capes
We’ve spoken about all the improvements we’re making, but what about the existing Completionist and Trimmed Completionist Capes? We don’t want to abandon them, or devalue the accomplishments of the players who have them.

So, our current pitch for the existing Comp and Trimmed Comp would be to effectively ‘freeze’ them. The current Comp Cape and Trimmed Comp Cape would become ‘Legacy’ versions of themselves and be renamed appropriately. These Legacy versions would:
Keep all their existing requirements
Would still be obtainable and could still be worn post-rework.
Would never have any of their requirements added to, changed, or removed.
Wouldn’t have stats or non-stat benefits, but you’d still have access to them thanks to the changes proposed earlier in this document.

This means that, if you already have a Comp or Trimmed Comp Cape, you get to keep it and, if you’re close to getting one, you can keep working towards it.



This is still my problem.
T2 = comp
T3 = Trimmed comp.
Easy as that.

The problem is - legacy (trimmed) comp has effectively been frozen for so many years now - so nothing will change in that aspect. Except for updating existing requirements (music, quests, reaper - the latter not even a fitting requirement since it's an achievement and not a completable/unlockable, which was the essence of the original comp cape design) they add at best token requirements for new content - at best, more often than not anything at all.

I could list you more than enough achievements, that should rather be requirements and more than enough content, that isn't even acknowledged in the form of an achievement. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

19-Mar-2019 08:18:00

Aqua Star

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Rikornak said :
Tom Grey said :
Aqua Star said :
Tom Grey said :
Easy fix to comp cape turned into this....sigh. No polls, no jmod interactions. Do they even read these thread after they post them. Reminds me of the mtx apologies.



Two tiers just are not enough to be fair to all content the game has. I am fairly sure not even 3 would be, that's why they're considering an hypothetical fourth tier, which just would award titles. It's not just about tons of requirements missing, it's also about disentangling the random mess the current (trimmed) comp is. Big plus for the new system also would be they could easily extend it then for other kinds of content.

If you don't like to do something (because it gives you no inherent benefit) - why do it then? You clearly are no completionist (even though you might be able to wear the current cape), still you seem to want to go for something that is intended for those having completed the game. There are still four capes/metas for you to strive for: Lore T1, Skills T1

That's also beyond dumb. Now what's an unfun environment when you talk to people and see nonsense being said and stuff like that

19-Mar-2019 10:51:57

Cute Brat
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I think the multiple tiers and capes is ridiculous, but that being said why should pvm be the only cape with stats? I like doing slayer but dont want to go out and kill all these crap bosses, atm i can wear my comp cape and have stats while i slay. Its like your punishing the skillers because we dont want to boss while as usual kissin pvmrs butts by giving them a cape with stats w/o having to do skills. All you had to do is come out with a pvm cape and leave ours alone but ofc you have to mess everything up by "trying" to do an unnecessary rework. Princess of World 98 =p~

19-Mar-2019 10:57:59 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2019 10:59:05 by Cute Brat

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