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RuneQueen
Feb Member 2013

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I have already found it very hard to continue playing Runescape since many of my friends have quit. So I felt working on trim reqs would give me something to aim for to motivate me to continue to play. This comp cape idea just may be the thing that forces me to quit for good. I and all other comp and trim comp cape owners put lots of time an effort into obtaining our capes devaluing them by removing everything from them makes them worthless. What would be the point in obtaining it? What would be the point in going for trim? (OH I WASTED MY TIME SO JAGEX GAVE ME THIS CAPE!) I have always tried to encourage my friend to max an comp which kept them playing. However to remove all value from the capes as you propose I would have lost many friends long before now. The fact they would have better capes stats was only reason some choose to get them. Max Guild bank in my home world is already mostly dead and this rework will completely kill it. I almost wish I could get refund of my premier.


I own Quest cape, Master Quest Cape, Max Cape, and Comp Cape, and 8 reqs away from Trim Comp. To hear you destroying the value of the ones you will leave in game and remove the rest makes it feel wasted years of my time so why waste anymore.

I realize everyone has different interest in game some skill some pvm etc...However I feel if you want to poll players about comp capes ad trim comp capes ask those already have it! Not those who have plans to never work for it...Anything worth having is worth working for.

Yes, I agree some changes need to be made but don't totally destroy the cape or its value rework requirements if anything or leave it as it is.
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12-Mar-2019 13:42:08 - Last edited on 12-Mar-2019 14:16:59 by RuneQueen

Shayenne
Dec Member 2013

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There are nice ideas in it but one i am against is the removal of the Master Quest Cape.

People worked really hard for that cape like killing 2000 king black dragons for that lore book and you just remove the cape? If the old comp capes can be a cosmetic why can't mqc be one ?
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12-Mar-2019 13:55:40

Big Storms

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Hmm I did not expect such a knee jerk reaction from the community. To be fair it is kind of weird how we went from reworking the completionist cape to removing the quest, master quest (which to be honest is the shining example of how a cape should actually be dealt with) and max cape. I do not see what this solves at all, and as I mentioned the quest and master quest cape perfectly fit the description of the Lore T1 and T3 cape.

That being said, I do not share the opinion of others that see this as devaluing the completionist cape. If anything, the sheer reluctance to add new requirements is what is devaluing your cape right now, just saying. This solution at least keeps a legacy version as well as an actual future where a completionist cape respresents something (currently it is a mess what is added and what is not). If I might be a bit harsh, most of these comments come down to not wanting change at all or ever.

I do see how this design is perhaps (too) complex, but seeing the requirements distributed in separate categories and tiers does look elegant and allow for rigid definitions. The one thing I do find clunky is the grace periods: it still seems prone to people rushing through requirements instead of playing for fun. Having something like a percentage (80-90%) of tier 1, 2, 3 tasks needed (thereby adding a buffer AND choice) seems better, or the decaying thing mentioned by Dark1859.

Either way, if the community reacts this strongly to a design like this then maybe nothing will be attempted at all. It does not affect my playstyle (doing achievements for fun), but it would be a shame for many others seem consumed by playing for that mere completionist cape. I guess it is their choice though.
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12-Mar-2019 14:00:08

PixelH8
Jun Member 2012

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This is literally first time ive ever posted on forums. But i feel like i had to for this subject. Personally i thought it was a great idea. Make other capes usuful again? Awesome. Have tiers for comp to show how close or what is needed to be done for next tier or complete comp. awesome. Finally not have to grind for just 1 cape in the game that makes all other capes useless. Awesome. FINALLY HAVE TO ACTUALLY TO MORE STUFF IN THE GAME TO GET THE COMP CAPE WHEN IT IS COMPLETIONEST CAPE AND YOU LITERALLY DO NOT COMPLETE THE GAME TO GET IT. Awesome. Like my god they put effort into somethjng you guys literally shit down there throats. Give feed back. Whining and saying omg worst ideas ever does literally nothing but show how much of a baby you guys are. I need someone to tell me how these changes seem bad. FOR GODSAKE THEY EEVEN ALLOW YOU TO KEEP YOUR OLD CAPE AND STILL OBTAIN THE OLD COMP CAPE. So please give feedback dont just complain

12-Mar-2019 14:00:44

River S0ng
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I'm not yet comped, only half-way, I'm already maxed and only 30 quests away from the quest cape. I don't like these ideas at all, they make all the effort, in effect, null and void. Why would you want to make the capes "cosmetic only"? That's a horrible idea, and I'm all for FashionScape.
I'm holding back from comping because it's a bit too much for me, but I plan on it at some point within a year or two.

With all these new suggestions in that document, it looks like it'll be more complicated than it already is and doesn't make it look appealing to want to comp. I know that if these ideas are implemented, I won't have the desire to want to comp.

I agree with an earlier statement in this thread, make the poll available to those who have already comped/trimmed. It won't be a fair vote and they've already been through the grief of getting the cape, let them decide since they'll know better than the average player.

Why not just work out the comp requirements itself and leave the other capes alone? Don't have it as a cosmetic either. Just sort out the requirements for comp and trimmed only, don't make it more complicated. Your ideas for the quest cape make no sense either, also, just move the Reaper requirements to trimmed. I love PVM, but I don't want to do all the bosses, not a fan of solo and some of the other bosses. But this is me, and also part of the reason I don't want to comp yet. Just move some of the "bigger" requirements to trimmed, it'll make a lot more sense this way.
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12-Mar-2019 14:08:20 - Last edited on 12-Mar-2019 16:46:41 by River S0ng

Aqua Star

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PixelH8 said :
This is literally first time ive ever posted on forums. But i feel like i had to for this subject. Personally i thought it was a great idea. Make other capes usuful again? Awesome. Have tiers for comp to show how close or what is needed to be done for next tier or complete comp. awesome. Finally not have to grind for just 1 cape in the game that makes all other capes useless. Awesome. FINALLY HAVE TO ACTUALLY TO MORE STUFF IN THE GAME TO GET THE COMP CAPE WHEN IT IS COMPLETIONEST CAPE AND YOU LITERALLY DO NOT COMPLETE THE GAME TO GET IT. Awesome. Like my god they put effort into somethjng you guys literally shit down there throats. Give feed back. Whining and saying omg worst ideas ever does literally nothing but show how much of a baby you guys are. I need someone to tell me how these changes seem bad. FOR GODSAKE THEY EEVEN ALLOW YOU TO KEEP YOUR OLD CAPE AND STILL OBTAIN THE OLD COMP CAPE. So please give feedback dont just complain


We don't want more fucking capes and we don't want to know about the new stupid fucking achievements. We did fucking mention.
Now what's an unfun environment when you talk to people and see nonsense being said and stuff like that

12-Mar-2019 14:12:13

Archaeox
Dec Member 2011

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So let me get this straight...

The Quest Cape will be replaced by the T1 lore cape... which requires all quests. Oh and which gives a stupidly long grace period compared to the current quest cape.

Well if it's essentially the same thing, WHY REPLACE IT?


Also, what about the emote from the current Quest Cape? Where will that go?
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12-Mar-2019 14:14:18 - Last edited on 12-Mar-2019 14:19:07 by Archaeox

PixelH8
Jun Member 2012

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@aqua star (dont know how to reply to other players comments yet) thats not needed you could have just explained it. Not spout off s couple sentences like a child. And more capes? I mean making old capes usful again like they said tok cape that be nice. And u dont have to do new achievements if you dont want to. If this came in id to the ones for pvm boosts thats it. As OTHER COMPS COMPLAIN WHY DO I HAVE TO GET REAPER TITLE FOR COMP. SO WHY DO I HAVE TO SKILL TO GET MY PVM BONUSES. Stop being a baby cause you have to actually complete the game somewhat.

12-Mar-2019 14:20:18

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