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Shaqgy

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Bullmastiff said :
Unlike most of the other players that are bitching about these proposed changes, I actually love the idea for all of them. The thought you guys put into every piece of content is amazing. Big thumbs up from me :)


What he said^. I've read through the entire document and I'm very impressed with the solutions to very intricate problems. Impressed is actually an understatement, whoever made this is a genius. This will allow everyone to pursue the rewards of the exact type of content they enjoy, without "devaluing" the achievements. hate farming, and shouldn't have to force myself through that when I can do what I actually enjoy and be rewarded for that. Comp cape has been hogging the cape slot for too long anyway, this will give the spot more variety. I'm an avid quester, and I'm delighted at the thought of Lore getting its own category. I'm not sure how I feel about certain capes being removed from the game altogether, but I'm willing to wait and see how the new ones will compensate. Even so, I'd still enjoy to have the master quest cape look as an option, as that was initially my next goal.
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13-Mar-2019 09:29:20

Aqua Star

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This will allow everyone to pursue the rewards of the exact type of content they enjoy, without "devaluing" the achievements


You can already do that. This idea just means there will be more toxic capes no one wants to get.
Now what's an unfun environment when you talk to people and see nonsense being said and stuff like that

13-Mar-2019 09:40:57

Lovefire

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I am definitely not a PVM'r so i like the high lvl pvm and group pvming being deleted from comp reqs.

BUT when i got back to rs3 MAX cape was something i really want to go for. The cape looks amazing and is a major achievement. You guys taking that away would be really dissapointing. :(

Another one is the MQC. I undertstand you would like to do something about the requirements and so but comon? This is the most beautifull cape ingame atm.
The community askes for some small tweaks around the PVM -> comp reqs, not to take away our most beloved capes...

13-Mar-2019 10:25:12

Pavomir
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I am quite attached to my max cape and removing it is really rather dumb because I fall into that category of players who "only want to wear one cape"? So whats wrong with that? Frodo had the one ring and he was fine...

Receiving a non customizable version of the max as just a override would make a lot of people upset and there is probably a lot of people that would wear just that. So then everyone would be wearing the same boring cape more or less.

And when you guys come out with new capes, they are usually override capes anyways and there are still a lot of people that like using those instead of their capes. And when you come out with a cape that isn't a override, guess what! people will get a hold of a keepsake key so it will be an override.

Certain things should be added regardless to the capes in general, like Ava's accumulator and even Ardy elite cape teleports. So in general some things should be passives because players have worked hard for. Even though those are part of the comp cape, which I probably wont ever get because of the outlandish reqs for them, I feel like certain perks should be added as a passive to everyone that has unlocked them.

13-Mar-2019 11:20:50

SLAYEROFGOAT

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Most of the ideas don't even truly address the issues outlined. Not only that, but you have managed to make it even more confusing. You think the comp cape is op for all of the stats and benefits, but instead of nerfing it, you've proposed to basically buff every other cape by assigning benefits to the player. We shouldn't be getting teleport options/benefits from every cape we have unlocked. That is too op.

The delaying of achievements is a good idea and can work well with the current system. There is no need to redesign the whole thing - it is just a waste of Jagex resources that should be used for other game developments.

13-Mar-2019 11:34:59

CuddleBucket

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I THOROUGHLY READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE DESIGN DOCUMENT & I AM SUPER IMPRESSED WITH ALL YOUR IDEAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I was blown away in a good way, I love that we keep seeing Jagex come up with new ideas FOCUSING ON THE LONG GAME.


It shows you plan on sticking around & the only thing I don't like is that this is so early in the process - meaning there will likely be changes - but I'd love to see every single thing that was proposed in the design document brought into game.


I really feel like this project is in the hands of the right people & I'd like to congratulate you & encourage you to follow the path that you've laid out.


WELL DONE!!!!!
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13-Mar-2019 11:47:26

Biker16
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From an old school vet:

1. Max cape is cool, don't touch.

2. Comp cape is tedious and I lost it after invention update and will not get back because of a long quitting period.

I have several things I need to do to re-attain the cape. The thing in particular that I absolutely do not want to do is kill all the bosses for that dumb title. Back when Vorago was the hardest boss I spent hours trying to find a team that was willing to do the boss with me and my mediocre equipment (Been DDS specing flag holders since before you were born). I sure was not about to pay 20m or whatever that ridiculous price was to have them carry me either. the fact that you can buy a requirement is not really an ideal requirement in my opinion. Make this a trimmed requirement or something.

Another thing I need to do is like 12 more quests. This is tedious, but makes sense and is not a terrible requirement.

There's like 7 colors or something in the comp cape? Maybe make more colorable parts unlockable the more achievements you do?

a thorondor mentioned making a new comp cape every year and letting older players who have completed all the achievements before keep theirs. This is a plausible solution. I got Comp cape several years ago so I would unlock that years forever. To get the next years version I'd have to do all that years new content. This is cool in the sense that when I achieved ALL the requirements. I unlock that cape forever, It's MINE and none of the new players can have it. However, they can still do all the current requirements and get the new cape. Everyone is happy here except the poor guy who already spent 150m killing all the bosses for final boss achievement.

13-Mar-2019 11:57:04 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2019 12:17:31 by Biker16

Trond

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I don't like the idea of this at all! There are already to many capes in the game!

Comp cape is best in slot for a reason. I see the "problem" of new capes not being worth for the compers, but they have actually so many hours and pride into the cape they already have.

Yes its not the best thing that solely pvmers never get the best in slot cape, but yet. Where is the achievement and reward for allround players that comped?

You overthinked this one by what i know so far with the dev blog.

I would rather add a skilling cape(for skillers, even tho why would they need stats), and a pvm cape with slighly less stats than comp (for the sole pvmer). Then leave comp and max cape as it is.

I think you should do what you do best on this one jagex. SHELF IT!

13-Mar-2019 12:24:56

l Pity
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rediculously dumb idea not a fan of any of the proposed changes at all and i say that with a heavy heart. been playing this game since a couple weeks after rs classic came out rune armour wasnt even a thing best armour in game was addy and i remember when comp and max came out, it was like the pinacle of capes.. whats even the point if its just going to be a legacy override wtf..

just make a seperate cape for combat without all the comp perks and a bit less stats oh wait there already is that in game. why should you get all the perks of the best in game items if you arnt willing to do the hard yards seems to me like your devaluing all the time people have spent putting into this cape every update that comes out.

fair enough some of the requirements need a re look but just nuking it and coming up with some other bull crap can tell you now alot of long standing players wont be happy the cape is such an iconic item in the game for gods sake

so dissapointing if this shit comes out ill probably quit and thatll be another 18 year vet saying sayonara

13-Mar-2019 13:38:30

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