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Hunteresque
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Doorknob747 said :
Warkev said :
Doorknob747 said :
F2P needs more quests. There are too many mem quests compared to F2P quests.

??? Pay for members and unlock 200+ more quests

Considering F2P got one of the largest updates last year: Including a new skill "to them" and all sorts of new items, weapons and areas. You really shouldn't complain since you spend 0 $ on this game.

There are people who play this game just for fun, and do not want to pay for membership. If Jagex keeps F2P the way it is, it will start to get dull and F2Pers will leave Runescape. It is wrong to state that F2P does not contribute to Jagex's revenue.

F2Pers can get membership by buying bonds on GE. Now the bonds get on GE in the first place when some P2Per buys the bond in the first place and sells it on the GE. So theoretically F2Pers are paying Jagex, but via someone else, who is paying for the bonds and selling them on the GE.

As much as I understand your point about there being way more member quests, Free-to-Play quests are just an insight to what you could get if you pay for membership. They want to entice and draw you in so you pay for membership and have access to a much wider range of quests. Hunteresque - The Picturesque Hunter
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20-Mar-2018 22:43:26

Mauhur
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Bah, if you ask me Jagex is currently managing their content scheduling rather poorly. Their emphasis on major content expansions crapped out and now they're on damage control. I really hope their promise to deal with unfinished business pays off.

As for the quality vs. quantity argument I believe we are getting neither . The quests of late have been few and far between and what we do get is not up to Jagex's standard from past years. Personally, I have found their God quests mediocre compared to the 5th age quests. True, I did enjoy Missing, Presumed Death and The World Wakes. However, Jagex has been creating visually stunning cutscenes for subpar quests like Kindred Spirits and those new Desert quests. They've lost their good old Jagex mojo.

Their older quests were much more enjoyable to play through and I could care less if the rewards are top notch. Just look at the Evil Dave quest. It's just the sort of thing they should be releasing more often even if it doesn't expand Runescape's lore all that much. At least we got to learn more about one of Runescape's most memorable characters.

Really, I think they should make quests for characters who have fallen by the wayside over the years. A quest about Miss Schism, Sir Pentyn, or about the Lumbridge tutors would be nice.

22-Mar-2018 19:14:22

Hunteresque
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Mauhur said :
Bah, if you ask me Jagex is currently managing their content scheduling rather poorly. Their emphasis on major content expansions crapped out and now they're on damage control.

As for the quality vs. quantity argument I believe we are getting neither . The quests of late have been few and far between and what we do get is not up to Jagex's standard from past years. Personally, I have found their God quests mediocre compared to the 5th age quests. True, I did enjoy Missing, Presumed Death and The World Wakes. However, Jagex has been creating visually stunning cutscenes for subpar quests like Kindred Spirits and those new Desert quests. They've lost their good old Jagex mojo.

Their older quests were much more enjoyable to play through and I could care less if the rewards are top notch. Just look at the Evil Dave quest. It's just the sort of thing they should be releasing more often even if it doesn't expand Runescape's lore all that much.

I think they should make quests for characters who have fallen by the wayside over the years. A quest about Miss Schism, Sir Pentyn, or about the Lumbridge tutors would be nice.

Their schedule needs to be thought out again like you say. To be brutally honest, the Spring Fayre that we're going to get, I'm not really that interested in and would much have preferred the development to have been on a future quest. Deep-Sea Fishing is another thing that doesn't really interest me. Fishing has had lots of updates in the past few years and I'm not sure it needed another.

Exactly right about quantity vs. quality. The Menaphos quests weren't of excellent quality and made up most of the quests that were released last year.

I enjoyed parts of every quest but WGS and ROTM were my favourites. The ones I thought were rushed were last year's Desert ones.

I liked the Evil Dave quest and agree with you that quests on forgotten about characters are a great way to remember they exist! Hunteresque - The Picturesque Hunter
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22-Mar-2018 21:57:16

Orcrist9
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Yeah, sorry, but as a quester, I'm not interested in having a bunch of "bottle" quests that serve no purpose other than to be quest content filler released over high quality quests relating to major stories like Gnomes, Gods, Elder Gods, etc..

Bottle Quests like Evil Dave's Day Off are fine on occasion, but if we're going to make the argument that quests are the "backbone" of the game, then the quests that make up the "backbone" need to have substance and relevance. Quality over quantity is a real issue whether you choose to see that or not. You can walk out into the rain and scream that it isn't raining all you want, but that doesn't stop it from raining.
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23-Mar-2018 00:47:05

Hunteresque
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Orcrist9 said :
Yeah, sorry, but as a quester, I'm not interested in having a bunch of "bottle" quests that serve no purpose other than to be quest content filler released over high quality quests relating to major stories like Gnomes, Gods, Elder Gods, etc..

Bottle Quests like Evil Dave's Day Off are fine on occasion, but if we're going to make the argument that quests are the "backbone" of the game, then the quests that make up the "backbone" need to have substance and relevance. Quality over quantity is a real issue whether you choose to see that or not. You can walk out into the rain and scream that it isn't raining all you want, but that doesn't stop it from raining.

No, I don't think that we need loads of "bottle" quests but at the moment, we're hardly getting any quests at all! So I'd be happy with any quest (as long as it's of reasonable quality) to be honest. Any quest with lore on any character improves the story of the game and so it is still important to learn more about other NPCs (like we did with Evil Dave) as well as advance the bigger stories.

Quality over quantity is an issue, granted. But what do you do when the Menaphos quests made up 4 out of 6 quests last year but still felt rushed and too short? That doesn't really solve the quality over quantity issue if they take ages to release and yet are still of poor quality?

I believe it's a focus issue rather than anything else, there needs to be more focus on quests once RS Mobile and the Mining and Smithing rework have been released that's for sure. Quality over quantity wasn't an issue in 2008 when we got 19 quests and one of the best ones ever created (many people say) was among those. (While Guthix Sleeps) Hunteresque - The Picturesque Hunter
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23-Mar-2018 02:14:42 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2018 02:16:17 by Hunteresque

Falkorgron
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Tbh pieces of hate was a bottle quest. Utterly disappointing and a huge WASTE of spending time on a quest and a stupid minigame like activity on the beach, and this isn't sarcasm. Vampire series was good, and I believe they had a proper director of the quest as well. For example, I think Jagex should stick to the path of making good final endings to old school quests like solving the corruption of the Gnomes in which I believe it was petitioned in the survey on what the Plkayers wanted for 2018. Jagex has been focusing too much on dialogue for the past 20 like quests that really destroyed all the fun. Abusing the "std::cout" ffs, and back to the Gnomes, I really hope they nerf a lot of the dialogue and finish the series off with mauling Glouphrie to "Ashes" considering how overpowered that character is. Which riles up my suspicions of the corruption going on in that realm of the old school 5th age series. Ffs, most of the area is like the wilderness.

23-Mar-2018 08:20:33

Falkorgron
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Tbh pieces of hate was a bottle quest. Utterly disappointing and a huge WASTE of spending time on a quest and a stupid minigame like activity on the beach, and this isn't sarcasm. Vampire series was good, and I believe they had a proper director of the quest as well. For example, I think Jagex should stick to the path of making good final endings to old school quests like solving the corruption of the Gnomes in which I believe it was petitioned in the survey on what the Plkayers wanted for 2018. Jagex has been focusing too much on dialogue for the past 20 like quests that really destroyed all the fun. Abusing the "std::cout" ffs, and back to the Gnomes, I really hope they nerf a lot of the dialogue and finish the series off with mauling Glouphrie to "Ashes" considering how overpowered that character is. Which riles up my suspicions of the corruption going on in that realm of the old school 5th age series. Ffs, most of the area is like the wilderness.

23-Mar-2018 08:20:34

Fait
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Dulcis Nex said :
Fait said :
dont you see behind the lines?
people wanted M and S rework
people voted 120 slay
people voted on slayer stuff
people voted on combat pets
people will and going to vote on boss and creatures and skills
people voted on clue scroll rework
ofc that takes work to do and have higher priority and in the old days you had both some of the osrs team + rs3 team in one team aswell

i am pretty sure there was available option to vote for quests in survey and polls, Jag can never satisfy all its player base, but if people dont want quest and it never passes the poll then there is no need to pull out some quest just to do it to do it, instead of making something cool.
I dont think majority cares about the quest exept the lorelovers, there is a reason why people uses guides to get through it asap, me myself would rather see 100 other updates before 1 single quest update It's not a matter of getting x update or a quest, there have always been concurrent updates to quests, skills and PvM.
Those polls weren't a choices between, say 120 slayer or a quest, it was whether people thought Slayer should be increased to 120.
With profits higher than ever Jagex aren't exactly overstreched


All areas of the game need to be tended to, none shunned. Quests are essential for many people, as others have said in this thread, without it the game is just a dry skilling grind. RuneScape is an RPG and it was built on quests and story.


But yet majority of the player base DONT want quests so for me and amongs many other we are cool that there comes and quest now and then.
Runescape would be dry and boring if there was to release 100 quests a year.
People can have their say and they could on the survey aswell, but i think more people care about gameplay and not to some boring easy quest you can do within 10 minutes just to unlock something, thats pretty boring.

23-Mar-2018 10:58:26

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