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Dilbert2001
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You need to stop being so defensive, when I said RS3 JMods didn't care I meant it in a debate conversation because the microscopic few players who are disinterested in RS3 mean very little to things that actually matter in regards to making things happen. RS3 has much larger group of players to tend to, and much bigger projects to grow the game.

Doesn't OSRS ask for input and future content? Please tell us how many of the inputs are being polled? You keep bringing OSRS into the argument which should be discussion rather. Everybody can give input, regardless they play RS3 or OSRS, pay or not, but neither game can care about the microscopic few who are obviously disinterested in the game.

Who said nobody asked for Fort and the new skill? Nobody even knew what Necromancy would be like 10 days ago. Please tell us how many OSRS players asked for Sailing? We know less than 40% of them chose it, not even the majority 51%. So what? games can't make content for everybody, they have to choose wisely for what most consumers want as shown in their real life data.

09-Jun-2023 05:48:51 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2023 05:50:21 by Dilbert2001

Roddy Piper
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"My point being, they constantly ask for our input and such for future content drops but yet here they are working on the max GP update, some new combat skill and some fort update that nobody even asked for"

I don't feel that is entirely accurate. The players did ask for it. The GP update is more of a business related thing. It's an important adjustment to help protect the players from scamming.

Lots of players were asking for alternate locations to use portables and more 'social' training. Among other things. Jagex also wanted to tell stories and build content around that. Providing buffs and other adjustments the players asked for.

The combat is a bigger thing, they decided to do this back in December 2021 I think. They know EOC wasn't attractive and they knew making adjustments is risky. Instead of hiding their head in the sand they decided to give combat another try, making a system based on player feedback.

And also going by their plan of telling stories. It's not lost on me that this is all for us.

09-Jun-2023 06:00:13

ShallPrevail
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Dilbert2001 said :
You need to stop being so defensive, when I said RS3 JMods didn't care I meant it in a debate conversation because the microscopic few players who are disinterested in RS3 mean very little to things that actually matter in regards to making things happen. RS3 has much larger group of players to tend to, and much bigger projects to grow the game.

Doesn't OSRS ask for input and future content? Please tell us how many of the inputs are being polled? You keep bringing OSRS into the argument which should be discussion rather. Everybody can give input, regardless they play RS3 or OSRS, pay or not, but neither game can care about the microscopic few who are obviously disinterested in the game.

Who said nobody asked for Fort and the new skill? Nobody even knew what Necromancy would be like 10 days ago. Please tell us how many OSRS players asked for Sailing? We know less than 40% of them chose it, not even the majority 51%. So what? games can't make content for everybody, they have to choose wisely for what most consumers want as shown in their real life data.


Once again pulling things out of thin air.... Clearly there are no mods on these parts of the forum because about 80% of your posts on this thread would be considered flamming.

Please in regards to your microscopic few players who are disinterested in RS3, let me know how many players played RS2 with all those fun minigames and such, and how many players RS3 currently has with Jagex's ignorant PVM updates they fill the current game in? and ignorant updates like the Fort and Necro that they pull out of thin air just like you are with all these facts you say are true but aren't even 1% taken seriously in any factual debate.



Once again, and again, and again I'm not talking about OSRS, this is a RS3 related thread and OSRS has nothing to do with RS3.
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09-Jun-2023 06:01:53

ShallPrevail
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Roddy Piper said :
"My point being, they constantly ask for our input and such for future content drops but yet here they are working on the max GP update, some new combat skill and some fort update that nobody even asked for"

I don't feel that is entirely accurate. The players did ask for it. The GP update is more of a business related thing. It's an important adjustment to help protect the players from scamming.

Lots of players were asking for alternate locations to use portables and more 'social' training. Among other things. Jagex also wanted to tell stories and build content around that. Providing buffs and other adjustments the players asked for.

The combat is a bigger thing, they decided to do this back in December 2021 I think. They know EOC wasn't attractive and they knew making adjustments is risky. Instead of hiding their head in the sand they decided to give combat another try, making a system based on player feedback.

And also going by their plan of telling stories. It's not lost on me that this is all for us.


For the state of the game, and the profit they made during the pandemic years Jagex should have reached out to some other effort to address the max GP issue instead of using their own team, because clearly nobody cared about it from a player perspective and clearly Jagex's team cannot handle slipping up on content that is literally meaningless to the player base. This is nothing new to them, they spent about 5 years on a mobile update for a game that's always been focused on PC..........


Yes of course players ask for more social aspects for the game, but creating a fort instead of the entire world of Gielinor is pretty low...... My point being they probably came up with an idea and used the excuse players wanted a more social skilling area and boom they used an entire year to build us a fort when Gielinor is dead content now......Because once again Jagex's team is to small to work on such a large effort.
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09-Jun-2023 06:09:10

ShallPrevail
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EOC wasn't attractive? of course it wasn't and making a whole new skill around a combat skill when the game itself hasn't brought interest even relatively close to what RS2 did and they still have a wonderful game to work on but yet use almost nothing they currently have is an incredible waste of resources.

All Jagex ever does now is obsess about some story and feed us more boring robotic PVM content over and over again....Oh wait a new combat skill to kill robotic NPC's yay.....

Game changer? I think not....
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09-Jun-2023 06:09:20 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2023 06:13:13 by ShallPrevail

Dilbert2001
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Who is flaming? I guess the one who called all RS3 Jmods including Mod Pips CEO liars, and small devs.

Who are about players who played RS2 when you selectively said you don't are about OSRS now? RS3 has added many minigames since RS2, but they added them for 2023 RS3 players, not for RS2 players that may not be many playing Jagex's games now.

I don't know who pulled nonsense out of thin air. Obviously even for the few who posted in the RSOF they care about preparation for Necromancy and Fort.

09-Jun-2023 06:15:54

ShallPrevail
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Dilbert2001 said :
Who is flaming? I guess the one who called all RS3 Jmods including Mod Pips CEO liars, and small devs.

Who are about players who played RS2 when you selectively said you don't are about OSRS now? RS3 has added many minigames since RS2, but they added them for 2023 RS3 players, not for RS2 players that may not be many playing Jagex's games now.

I don't know who pulled nonsense out of thin air. Obviously even for the few who posted in the RSOF they care about preparation for Necromancy and Fort.

Gibberish called and wants their title back.........

I never called anyone a liar but when you pull things out of thin air and use the back of Jagex to try to support your fabrication, yes of course I'm going to call you out on it.

And yes I would be happy to call the owners of this game a liar, they fabricate 90% of their advertisements to try and lure players back into the robotic Ness of RS3 just to try and make a penny. They may not be the ones pulling the strings but they are responsible and at the end of the day everything falls back on them, they cannot and should not relate to the community if they can't even look at their own forums and understand what the players really want.
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09-Jun-2023 06:20:45

Dilbert2001
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So you are flaming the owners of this game too. I don't even see them advertising RS3.

All the Fort and Necromancy are absolutely called by lots of players all over the social media the last couple of years. Even some of the few RSOF users who are disinterested in RS3 liked them too.

A lot of players actually made a lot of Necromancy suggestions of their own way before RS3 designed to make it their next skill.

09-Jun-2023 06:40:43

ShallPrevail
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Dilbert2001 said :
So you are flaming the owners of this game too. I don't even see them advertising RS3.

All the Fort and Necromancy are absolutely called by lots of players all over the social media the last couple of years. Even some of the few RSOF users who are disinterested in RS3 liked them too.

A lot of players actually made a lot of Necromancy suggestions of their own way before RS3 designed to make it their next skill.

Your goal here is to clearly protect Jagex, all I was saying is that the outroar for community minigames was far more superior than some fort update, a new combat skill or a max GP update.

If you aren't going to have a healthy debate you should reconsider your position because clearly nobody takes you seriously if you look at any reply's that pertain to your posts.... literally nobody. All you try to do is defend Jagex's stance by over fabricating everything....There was zero outroar from the community or even several posts weekly requesting for a fort update or a new combat skill at all....If there was Jagex would have said it but all they said is one of the Dev's slid it into the suggestions in 2021 and that was all....I myself look through forums frequently and saw nothing of it.


Jagex failed, there was more community talk about minigames and no we don't mean D&D's or small minigames we mean a meaningful amazing minigame and Jagex has not done so in the last 10 years. End of story.


Flamming, means that you're trying to annoy someone, if you think the owners of Jagex don't have to take accountability for a false representation of players that are currently online on their home front page of their RS3 website, than I can't carry on anymore conversations with you. That's just one easy example of why the owner of this company is a liar, it's RS3 and they combine RS3 and OSRS #'s and display it on the front page of an RS3 website.... IT'S A LIE and I am surely not flamming because I'm accurate.
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09-Jun-2023 10:55:39 - Last edited on 09-Jun-2023 11:15:39 by ShallPrevail

Deltaslug

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So.... Heist ....

I've spent quite a bit of time trying to think of ways to reuse or repurpose the minigame.

It's always had some cute mechanics (the costumes, being able to swim).

But trying to come up with a "rework" into a soloable activity isn't easy. You'd basically need to turn into an evolution of Pyramid Plunder where the player gets a certain amount of time to go around the entire game map and loot as much as possible.
The drawback is "risk".
No player/team vs other mechanic. So you're basically relying on guards that have a preprogrammed route or are stationary which can be cute to deal with the first time or 2 but you eventually get the issue of the Sorceress Garden or something where it can be constantly frustrating or constantly predictable. Sure it;d make for an ok training method once you get it down (assuming the XP was made to be worthwhile).

But the good thing about Heist is the lack of main game rewards. Sure it gives XP, but all the "abilities" it provides are solely of use in Heist, sort of like all of the Cabbage Facepunch abilities.

09-Jun-2023 13:01:07

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