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Dilbert2001
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Spending an hour a day to obtain 95 cosmetics, xp buffs and useful items is definitely far rewarding with less efforts than Yak Track.

"Talk about how you missed the dart board and tell players that if they really don't want Hero Pass tweaked, its an option - or at least if they can't do that, have the courage to tell the players why it needs to stay in spite of how the community feels."


That's another of your disresptful bs to Jagex. They clearly told us they are changing Yak Track and the changes are based on feedbacks of the community (meaning not just you and your who know how many friends, but all the players who are not disinterested in RS3, and are playing RS3). They also told us about the everybody invited Community Consultation. Facts are facts.

27-Sep-2023 04:05:39

Mixed Slush

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Dilbert2001 said :
^^
You can log in but you refuse to then you are just willfully blind and miss the fun of all of us who log in and reap the big rewards from Hero Pass as well as the regular rewards from doing regular things.

Oh! You claimed MMG this and that and you still logged in, and not just from your alt who got 99 Archaeology but also one you are posting with in this thread as they got 20 Archaeology too.

I logged in on many accounts. I got many levels off protean packs and many many keys. Not as many as flarefox but I obviously have tons of sof accounts. In fact when Solomon came out I was making accounts to get the free runcoins to get the disgusting outfits since you could get a free one because I'd obviously quit playing runescape by then cos of sof but I like to make sure I've tried updates before I give feedback. But Jagex called my expert feedback spam and antijagex and stole my "main" because they're very disrespectful, but what do you expect from a company that employs mod ian mod jed mod jacmob and how ever many other jmod friends. They falsely accused me of making accounts to spam forums. But now I look at their dead forum with just 3 of you fanbois left talking to yourselves. Tuffty locking my thread as spam telling me there's no toilet in runescape when there's clearly toilets in runescape. Just pathetic abusers. I'll let you pay for that. You clearly enjoy it.

27-Sep-2023 07:52:23

Mixed Slush

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That's the one they won't give me back even though its me.
Slushypants is banned
Cutest Pants
Fireflypants
Pure Slush aka Leigha.
Slushypup aka Slushy x
Hot Slush
L0ve D0ve
Kara x
About several k more.
Of course you remember me.
Everyone knows me.
Idc really. But he's telling me to log in and play and I'm trying to explain.
Anyway. I've written an excellent article. It's going global.
Excellent posts lately Jeremy. Keep up the good work.

27-Sep-2023 08:52:11

Dilbert2001
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Jeremy Cheng said :
Ah poshpants i remember you, you're back after a few years break.

Looks like we're getting iron changes to hero pass after they improve the speed of point gain. As it should be.

Good that you see the changes to IM and improvement of speed of point gain. I hope OP can see it now too.

27-Sep-2023 16:04:20

H 1 L D A
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That comment was for you, Dilbert, because you do this thing where you check other players' credentials and claim that they aren't able to provide adequate feedback based on things like recent inactivity or lack of experience gained or what have you. Mixed Slush isn't the first player you've tried to present ad hominem arguments over. The reason these players aren't as active actually do matter here. If the game is pushing players away, that's something Jagex needs to hear.

Your comments don't speak for the majority of RuneScape players.


Firstly, neither do yours. Secondly, feedback from my friends counts as consultation from them. If my friend group feels so negatively about Hero Pass that its removal is the most positive and unanimous decision they can agree on - that's feedback that Jagex needs to hear, and really, what they are asking for as much as that particular feedback isn't what the company is hoping for.

You've always been negative about RuneScape 3 anyway, why should Jagex or anyone else consider your opinion?


Selective memory, Dilbert? This claim is absolutely false! You've visited my 'Aftermath' thread series for the Fort quests, where I've been effusive about the game's direction and engaging in fun discussions about lore. I've also dropped by some of yours to have some fun with predictions and whatnot. I love RuneScape 3. A lot. It's why I'm so critical of Jagex in the first place, and it's why I'm here.

Ramblings on time investment...


You didn't even understand this portion of the post at all. I wasn't talking about Hero Pass, but how players who have spent a lot of time playing RuneScape 3 and getting to endgame may feel "obligated" to defend Jagex when they release poor updates because leaving the game or doing whatever it takes to make the company adopt better practices may be a betrayal to the time they've spent playing.

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27-Sep-2023 16:55:31

H 1 L D A
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Changes are based on community feedback...


If changes were actually being driven by community feedback, Hero Pass would be in the garbage bin.

Do you not see the problem with this? Jagex is essentially doing whatever is absolutely necessary to force players to take ownership of an update that many of them don't even want, and then they can spin it as reaching a glorious revision that involved players when at the end of the day, players are going to simply "tolerate" having the battle-pass in the game in the first place. Many - I'd wager even the majority - will not feel as exulted as Jagex will when Hero Pass reaches a state of completion. Community-side, we're just gonna be relieved we're done talking about it.

Jagex is being disingenuous here. There's an actual lack of sincerity with how players truly feel about this update, and there has been from the very start.

Why should players sincerely engage with a company that actively insults their intelligence in this way?
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27-Sep-2023 17:04:42 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2023 17:04:58 by H 1 L D A

Dilbert2001
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@H 1 L D A

I never wrote I spoke for the majority of the players. I quoted Jagex's official words. They aren't my own words. I also pointed to other players comment like Jeremy Cheng just on this page.

You can also look at some other RS3 players' comments like this one, on how much better Hero Pass is now with Content Buff moved to in game content like PvM events.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YrUyeLUva8

Please also look at other players' comments with numbers and calculation that we only needs to play one hour a day of anything we want and complete all 120 tiers of Hero Pass (4:00). They clearly appreciated the changes and at the end they reemphasized and thank Jagex for the degree of communication RS3 is offering us RS3 players:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpfEShznp2s

27-Sep-2023 17:06:52 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2023 17:07:09 by Dilbert2001

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I think you're misunderstanding Init Yeah's commentary here.

> He's not commenting about how Hero Pass is better off BECAUSE there isn't content buffs, he's defending his praise for Thok's Smashing Buffs as a PvM Event against players that are making a false equivalency argument between it and the HP buffs. I would agree with Init Yeah. Thok's Smashing Buffs is great, and its accessible to everyone right off the rip, and it doesn't actually invalidate accomplishment by buffing things like damage reduction and instead just saves supplies, which is much better than what the Hero Pass was trying to do by baiting players to spend.

> The title of this video is literally "Hero Pass Bad..." - That's kind of important. I've yet to hear a single RuneTuber give any actual positive praise for Hero Pass, and this is another example of the contrary.

I've actually watched this Protoxx video you've shared already. Here's a snippet from the first page of this thread.

Proposed Balancing Changes

If I'm to be stuck with Hero Pass, this is actually quite ideal. Everyone that plays routinely should be able to reach 120 on the track here - and if the pass isn't going to include elements of MTX such as skips or putting useful items on the premier track predominantly - then you have yourself a very workable battle-pass that players might actually like. The issue, again, is that you should probably know if players even care enough to want the battle-pass in the first place. Even at its absolute best, a battle-pass will not move the needle in a positive direction for me as a player.


Not bad for being Ms. Negative-all-the-time, huh?

The thing though, is that you're being just as manipulative as Jagex is in this situation and fishing for praise and want no part of the criticism. After reading this, you're gonna do that thing where you ignore 95% of the post and say "Thank you for saying Hero Pass will make players happy." Spare me.
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27-Sep-2023 17:33:22 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2023 17:33:51 by H 1 L D A

Dilbert2001
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Init Yeah definitely is very pleased to see content buff outside Hero Pass, otherwise they will not explicitly talked about them together.

Didn't you keep telling us nobody liked Hero Pass? Now I have shown you many players liked the revised Hero Pass and the likes of Protoxx actually said they didn't even want to wait another week and what is your comment? Even if you continue to be manipulative it certainty won't work because players can all see the numbers and ease of completing all tiers of Hero Pass just by playing one hour. They don't even need to log in the game to find it out themselves.

27-Sep-2023 17:59:53

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