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Mixed Slush

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Idk since my main is banned and I don't talk to runescape players on runescape. I have them on other message services and social media like Facebook so that's the only person I had on my noob which jagex also forum banned for pointing out petition to remove sof won thread of the week and accused me of making an alt to spam forums when it was just my noob account .
So he was upset about gold rocks. Strange ones. So bot happy with jagex updates which is very antijagex so u can ask him yourself dilbert.

26-Sep-2023 16:10:03

Dilbert2001
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@Mixed Slush

When you are banned from RS3, obviously you don't know the truth. The good thing is for all of us players who aren't disinterested in RS3, play RS3 and not banned from it, we can all see with our own eyes incredibly obvious fact - we just play RS3 the way we want to and we automatically progress through Hero Pass without us even knowing its existence.

26-Sep-2023 16:14:24

Mixed Slush

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Well actually they only banned 1 account.
Refused to give me another one back and I think they deleted some.
They've done very bizarre things to me.
Yet I can still log in and play on my other alts which are all like 17 years old so obviously the player experience is awful so that's why I don't log in.

But obviously he was upset about the whole being 200m xp thing so that's always been a thing even last time logging in and talking wasn't broken.

But jagex obviously was too busy banning people for being anti jagex to listen

26-Sep-2023 16:45:55

H 1 L D A
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Jagex hasn't exactly earned my respect this month.

> They released an update they needlessly kept secret on the roadmap (probably intentionally, because nobody likes MTX on its face.)

> They hid the MTX elements of Hero Pass in the livestream, which conflated the issue when players actually encountered them on the update's actual release.

> They told players, without justification, that "remove Hero Pass" wasn't constructive criticism (when it absolutely is in fact, a suggestion that would make RuneScape a better game in those players' eyes.)

> They don't have the courage to poll players about Hero Pass (which is why in this ONE instance, spoke on their behalf. Disingenuous? Just doing what they are.)

> They removed things like content buffs ONLY to bring up the possibility that they could return in future hero passes, when they know players are pretty vocally dead set against such a notion (that's also not make believe, read the community consultation newspost.)

> They haven't provided a reason against such backlash to justify why they're pushing this update over the threshold of acceptance for players as opposed to scrapping it by request.

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I'm not going to put on a fake smile of satisfaction about an update that is utterly displeasing when Jagex offers to allow me to talk about it.

This update is completely unnecessary (as far as I know - Jagex can absolutely provide a reason on the contrary whenever the wish) and they deserve to keep hearing that at this point in time.

They want community consultation? They're gonna get it.
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26-Sep-2023 17:49:21

Dilbert2001
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Mixed Slush said :
Well actually they only banned 1 account.
Refused to give me another one back and I think they deleted some.
They've done very bizarre things to me.
Yet I can still log in and play on my other alts which are all like 17 years old so obviously the player experience is awful so that's why I don't log in.

But obviously he was upset about the whole being 200m xp thing so that's always been a thing even last time logging in and talking wasn't broken.

But jagex obviously was too busy banning people for being anti jagex to listen

It won't matter your other alts are 17 years old or 1 second old. As long they have completed tutorials they should be able do anything they like, gain Hero Points and easily see they can CLAIM rewards. It is just that simple.

26-Sep-2023 18:21:21

Mixed Slush

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Dilbert2001 said :
Mixed Slush said :
Well actually they only banned 1 account.
Refused to give me another one back and I think they deleted some.
They've done very bizarre things to me.
Yet I can still log in and play on my other alts which are all like 17 years old so obviously the player experience is awful so that's why I don't log in.

But obviously he was upset about the whole being 200m xp thing so that's always been a thing even last time logging in and talking wasn't broken.

But jagex obviously was too busy banning people for being anti jagex to listen

It won't matter your other alts are 17 years old or 1 second old. As long they have completed tutorials they should be able do anything they like, gain Hero Points and easily see they can CLAIM rewards. It is just that simple.

You said I can log in and see people enjoying hero pass and agreeing with you. Similar to when mmg said we all enjoyed sof and it was the most successful update ever because we all interacted with it, even though it was clearly a poxy pop up on your screen that you literally had to click to get rid of. Had no toggle off. Literally everyone quit and reset themselves in old school or became iron men but they still think it was successful . And yes one of my alts got 99 unt archeology thanks but actually haven't logged in since hero pass but yet I still know people like to toggle off stuff when they got 200m xp. They don't want to train those skills. Except some do. But that's another story.
In fact it's caused by jagex drowning everyone in xp cos of sof anyway, so actually I was right all along and ideky I waste my talent here.

26-Sep-2023 22:29:51

Dilbert2001
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^^
You can log in but you refuse to then you are just willfully blind and miss the fun of all of us who log in and reap the big rewards from Hero Pass as well as the regular rewards from doing regular things.

Oh! You claimed MMG this and that and you still logged in, and not just from your alt who got 99 Archaeology but also one you are posting with in this thread as they got 20 Archaeology too.

27-Sep-2023 00:33:40

H 1 L D A
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If you don't wanna listen to Mixed Slush, I'll be happy to step in as a Max/Quest Caper.

I wish very much that I could log in and see people talking positively about Hero Pass. We must not run in the same circles you and I, Dilbert, because everyone in my group of friends has had next to no positive remarks to give toward it - and there's been quite a fair bit of disdain instead.

There's this thing people need to understand about having a high level RuneScape account sometimes. For a lot of people, it took literal decades to achieve that success - and when you pour your time into something that much it can be really hard to let that thing go. It's one of the most popular reasons why RS3 players never give Old School RuneScape a try. The Stockholm syndrome that is induced by their RS3 achievements.

Why is that relevant to this discussion? Your investment into RS3, or OS, whatever game you spend way too much time on, can blind you to the realities on the ground. I think people in the past were afraid of calling Jagex on their mishaps and pushing for positive change because doing things like unsubscribing would be very hard to do, almost as if it were a disservice to the time you spent on the account.

Then you get updates like this where somehow, there -is- a breaking point all of a sudden.

You want Jagex to earn my respect?

Address the community's angst with more than a "we hear you loud and clear."

Talk about how Hero Pass, from its inception, really was aimed at trying to make the player experience more rewarding without being demanding of ones' time, and how it was about addressing pain points from Yak Track.

Talk about how you missed the dart board and tell players that if they really don't want Hero Pass tweaked, its an option - or at least if they can't do that, have the courage to tell the players why it needs to stay in spite of how the community feels.

That's earnest input - and players will give it back. Trust me.
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27-Sep-2023 03:05:14

Dilbert2001
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@H 1 L D A

"If you don't wanna listen to Mixed Slush, I'll be happy to step in as a Max/Quest Caper"


If this comment is for me, you are absolutely wrong because I always give constructive opinions even to playes who are disinterested in Jagex's games or don't want to play them. The reason is this is a public forum. My constructive opinions are always for any RSOF users who may want to join in for the discussion at any time, or just browsing without commenting.

" because everyone in my group of friends has had next to no positive remarks to give toward it - and there's been quite a fair bit of disdain instead."


So it is your group of friends' comment, I don't think they represent a significant percentage of the almost 350 mil registered Runescape accounts, million of active players and 1.1 million members. Your comments have always been negative to everything about RS3 anyway. So what?

"Why is that relevant to this discussion? Your investment into RS3, or OS, whatever game you spend way too much time on, can blind you to the realities on the ground."


The reality and very simple math shows we only need to play one hour a day to complete all 120 tiers of Hero Pass under the latest proposal. Most players spend an hour or two on games in the video game industry. How is it a big "investment", especially when you compared that to OSRS? Didn't I mention numerous times we can all log into the game and see how easy and attentionless it is to do Hero Pass now. Seeing is believing, unless you are willfully blind, RS3 is not going to blind you.

"Talk about how Hero Pass, from its inception, really was aimed at trying to make the player experience more rewarding without being demanding of ones' time, and how it was about addressing pain points from Yak Track."

27-Sep-2023 04:02:28

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