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MaliceKooper
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Dilbert2001 said :
It is all up to players who actually see the real profits to plant 10 seeds. The ones who want to plant one seed they still can, and they can admire the others making huge profits through farming although they don't get such profits.

Meanwhile, most of us are very happy with Jagex narrowing the gap between skillers and pvmers. Even many pvmers admired this update too as they think such game changing updates are great for the game. It is also refreshing to see the likes of Wazzy leaving the PvM Hub and looking for buckets to make composts and farm herbs.

What profits when there's no seeds to be had in the first place ??? The skillers are going to have to spend a week just earning coins to do a few Herb runs now with this update

07-Nov-2022 22:58:22

Horsechaser
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This update was not an "update" per se. It was a nerf. I have been planting 7 torstol seeds at a time, using stockpiled insta growth (leafy) and farming pots for extras while picking. Out of seven torstol seeds Im getting an average yield using the farm pots of 30 to 35 torstols. This is total BS.

I can do a 6 patch farm run on the normal patches using farm pots planting 1 seed per patch and easily get a yield of 85 to 100 torstols. How is this update beneficial? This has been the case with every herb seed I've planted in the new patch. The yield is pathetic compared to planting the 6 patches with one seed.

Bottom line is we get a boss nerf dropping seeds instead of herbs and on top of that an herb nerf planting multiple seeds for a shitty yield not to mention an attempt to force bossers to farm with the boss seed drops.

Thanks for nothing Jagex. Failed "update" (tongue-in-cheek)

07-Nov-2022 23:02:31 - Last edited on 07-Nov-2022 23:04:19 by Horsechaser

MaliceKooper
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Horsechaser said :
This update was not an "update" per se. It was a nerf. I have been planting 7 torstol seeds at a time, using stockpiled insta growth (leafy) and farming pots for extras while picking. Out of seven torstol seeds Im getting an average yield using the farm pots of 30 to 35 torstols. This is total BS.

I can do a 6 patch farm run on the normal patches using farm pots planting 1 seed per patch and easily get a yield of 85 to 100 torstols. How is this update beneficial? This has been the case with every herb seed I've planted in the new patch. The yield is pathetic compared to planting the 6 patches with one seed.

Bottom line is we get a boss nerf dropping seeds instead of herbs and on top of that an herb nerf planting multiple seeds for a shitty yield not to mention an attempt to force bossers to farm with the boss seed drops.

Thanks for nothing Jagex. Failed "update" (tongue-in-cheek)

I agree and I said same things when the " update nerf " was announced

07-Nov-2022 23:10:07

Fish Kitten
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Dilbert2001 said :
It is all up to players who actually see the real profits to plant 10 seeds. The ones who want to plant one seed they still can, and they can admire the others making huge profits through farming although they don't get such profits.

You're being serious, huh.
I won't explain the math to you because it's clear from your other attempt to parse the details in terrible equation form, that you don't understand the fundamental issue at hand; yield per seed value is less if you use so-called "plant power". Planting seeds more than 1 at a time is scripted to be less profitable over the long run.

Had Jagex just added three more herb patches, this would've been a better update and functionally equivalent to their intended purpose to rid of us seeds.

eta: It also seems likes scroll of life procs less now. I didn't keep track of it when I was doing my comparison earlier though.

07-Nov-2022 23:10:09 - Last edited on 07-Nov-2022 23:12:28 by Fish Kitten

Dilbert2001
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Fish Kitten said :
Dilbert2001 said :
It is all up to players who actually see the real profits to plant 10 seeds. The ones who want to plant one seed they still can, and they can admire the others making huge profits through farming although they don't get such profits.

You're being serious, huh.
I won't explain the math to you because it's clear from your other attempt to parse the details in terrible equation form, that you don't understand the fundamental issue at hand; yield per seed value is less if you use so-called "plant power". Planting seeds more than 1 at a time is scripted to be less profitable over the long run.

Had Jagex just added three more herb patches, this would've been a better update and functionally equivalent to their intended purpose to rid of us seeds.

Yield per seed means nothing when we don't have the time to farm seeds individualy. Now we can far 10x of them and we harvest many times more herbs and get far more profits.

That's why we see a lot of players farming herbs gain for real in the game.

When even pvmers like the skilling update even when they know they probably will make less money pvming, you know it is a very good update for the entire RS3 community.

07-Nov-2022 23:15:10

Roddy Piper
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"Yield per seed means nothing when we don't have the time to farm seeds individualy. Now we can far 10x of them and we harvest many times more herbs and get far more profits.

That's why we see a lot of players farming herbs gain for real in the game."


This is true. The reason I am farming herbs right now is because I don't have time to farm herbs. If I had the time I wouldn't be doing it.

Also less than 3X profit for 10X the cost is right up my alley.

You see, I like to be as inefficient as possible.

07-Nov-2022 23:30:20

Dilbert2001
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Fish Kitten said :
Dilbert2001 said :

Yield per seed means nothing...

Except in math.
And your earlier attempt at crunching some real world numbers with greater/less operands totally disregarded the seed/yield ratio which, by inarguable fact, is LESS.

You just totally miss the concept of time. No problem though as it is your time and seeds.

The ones who really know how to make big profits are happily unlocking multiple seed planting and making big profits in the game now.

07-Nov-2022 23:44:00

Horsechaser
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Soon as your insta growth potions run out, so will your profits from planting multiple seeds. Bottom line is yield per seed *does* matter in the long run.

No ifs ands or buts about it, this was a clear nerf to farming herbs, at least from the yield standpoint.

You will be stuck in the "time" issue you mention when the beans. currency and insta growth potions run out.

The new patch is no faster than the older ones growing herbs without instagrowth potions.

08-Nov-2022 01:13:38

Dilbert2001
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Jagex has revealed the plan since October 19 and herb prices are mostly up with some doubled when players heard the news and digested it for 20 days. Of course, they know what's coming. They know pvmers no longer get herbs from bosses. They know pvmers will get and control seed prices rather. They know not every skiller cares about profits so only the diligent ones will make farm runs. As such, they anticipate herb and seed prices to go up, and that's what we see in GE.

08-Nov-2022 01:25:49

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