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Sc Jw
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Dilbert2001 said :
Do you know how to check the date of content of a Wiki? The Old School Runescape Wiki page is severely outdated, when they stated
"with an all time record of 157,000 concurrent players"

lol, you took the bait.

What we have is an official Jagex Twitter account stating 157k+ online Nov 1 2020. Setting granularity for a week the online player count shows 121k OSRS and 39k RS3. This proves the online graph is _conservative_, and while it doesn't state such (5 minute intervals for scrape) it's probably an average.

Bottom line is it's worse than I said.

Dilbert2001 said :
We know OSRS has record of 173,000 concurrent players rather, and why don't you look at OSRS's concurrent players in 2023, which is what matters rather?

Pick a week. This year OSRS has peaked at 98,811 with RS3 at 38,792. Right this second there are 115,847 OSRS players online and 27,606 RS3.

Dilbert2001 said :
Let me also advise you popularity is not dictated by concurrent players.

Absolute total delusional bullcrap. The more popular a game is the more people will be online at any given time. For you to even make that statement shows how full of it you are.

Dilbert2001 said :
So RS3 reported 18% and 20% revenue growth the last 2 years, for a total of 42% growth over 2 years. Now that's what real popular means to Main Street and Wall Street.

Page 35 of the financial statement (37 in browser), subscription revenue dropped from 91.7M to 89.8M, even with a price increase. It's the MTX revenue going from 28M to 34.6M that caused the increase.

We know RS3 player count dropped. It's less people paying more, and that's not a sustainable model. And the "Wall Street" folks do their due diligence as well.

26-Sep-2023 01:43:12

Dilbert2001
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What bait? Mod Kieran spoke the truth (in 2020) when OSRS hit record concurrent players of 157k. Some clueless or disingenuous person edited the Old School Runecape Wiki Page with incorrect information. Mod Kieran never mentioned anything about popularity and RS3 at all. It just happened OSRS has fallen since 2020 and 2021.

Concurrent players aren't actual players. Bots and gold farmers in OSRS stay online like 16 - 24 hours a day compared to normal players only play an hour or two a day. RS3 has far more causal players than OSRS. That's why RS3 grew their revenue by 42% over the last 2 years compared to -1% growth from OSRS over the same 2 years period.

We know Bond is MTX. OSRS has Bond MTX. Hence "the MTX revenue going from 28M to 34.6M" also received their contribution from OSRS Bond MTX.

Not only is RS3 growing their revenue fast, they are also low in cost. At least they never have to sponsor big streamers like B0aty and Odablock, only to see them going to greener pastures. RS3 always has just a few hundreds concurrent streamers and they have proven it won't hurt them from growing their revenue signficantly Actually former OSRS Mod MatK spilled the beans about the financial woes of OSRS. He told us when he was in his last months with OSRS, lots of players discussed different MTX for OSRS or they would have to cut OSRS services.

RS3 is in good shape with growing revenues and very low cost. It is going to go a very long way for the next 22 years. We can't say the same with OSRS though as cost is high and monetization is low. Be content with 5k Twitch viewers instead of 30-40k. :)

26-Sep-2023 02:14:21 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2023 02:16:23 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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Kings Abbot said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Do you know how to check the date of content of a Wiki?


Last time we had a discussion you couldn't, and didn't even want to understand it...
Glad to see you finally got it, and actually learned something from it.


I really have no idea what you are talking about and how does it have anything to do with this discussion of combining RS3 and OSRS into one game.

If you intend to follow up with the "discussion" we had "last time", please bring it up from that thread for further discussion perhaps?

26-Sep-2023 18:31:17 - Last edited on 26-Sep-2023 18:32:49 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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Of course, B0aty and Odablock aren't the only OSRS streamer taking some time doing something not named OSRS. Check that the very popular Settled last streamed in early July. By Release or may be better known as J1mmy used to stream OSRS religiously on the weekends but seemingly has disappeared for quite a while, with his girlfriend going fully to WoW. Alfie, is also seen streaming Teamfight Tactics lately too.

The disparity between the reliance of content creators between RS3 and OSRS is hugggeeee. The gap probably can't be narrowed anyway.

26-Sep-2023 18:41:01

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Dilbert2001 said :
Kings Abbot said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Do you know how to check the date of content of a Wiki?


Last time we had a discussion you couldn't, and didn't even want to understand it...
Glad to see you finally got it, and actually learned something from it.


I really have no idea what you are talking about and how does it have anything to do with this discussion of combining RS3 and OSRS into one game.

If you intend to follow up with the "discussion" we had "last time", please bring it up from that thread for further discussion perhaps?


Nice try. I rather keep that thread dead, as it should be, since that discussion you didn't want to believe and just kept sidetracking instead of looking at the proof was already deemed off-topic there. No need to repeat that hypocrisy here.
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27-Sep-2023 11:12:53

Dilbert2001
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Kings Abbot said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Kings Abbot said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Do you know how to check the date of content of a Wiki?


Last time we had a discussion you couldn't, and didn't even want to understand it...
Glad to see you finally got it, and actually learned something from it.


I really have no idea what you are talking about and how does it have anything to do with this discussion of combining RS3 and OSRS into one game.

If you intend to follow up with the "discussion" we had "last time", please bring it up from that thread for further discussion perhaps?


Nice try. I rather keep that thread dead, as it should be, since that discussion you didn't want to believe and just kept sidetracking instead of looking at the proof was already deemed off-topic there. No need to repeat that hypocrisy here.


How does my thread have anything to do with the Wiki? Source of the Runesape Remastered project of my post came from Chinajoy, leaked and confirmed Jagex assets among other things. Thank you for reminding us.

27-Sep-2023 15:56:11

Dilbert2001
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Even former OSRS Senior Product Manager Mat K has seen the many pitfalls of OSRS. However, his proposed plan to save OSRS is not to combine it with RS3, but on the contrary he wanted OSRS to break up into different parts and start selling NFT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v =D Bxq8UBaMn0

27-Sep-2023 16:00:26 - Last edited on 27-Sep-2023 16:16:24 by Dilbert2001

Mixed Slush

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Dilbert2001 said :
Even former OSRS Senior Product Manager Mat K has seen the many pitfalls of OSRS. However, his proposed plan to save OSRS is not to combine it with RS3, but on the contrary he wanted OSRS to break up into different parts and start selling NFT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v =D Bxq8UBaMn0


Jagex aside though.

I mean, they can't sell mod mat k if he's left can they.

Not even sure there's any mods left.

And apparently the jagex just spent a month adjusting a yak track.

27-Sep-2023 16:26:57

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