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2006

Dilbert2001

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Z om B1 e said :

And if players leave and don't like it then they shouldn't play at all because if the company focused on 1 game it could change for the better and for the future of RuneScape and the JaGex company.

If players like just 1 game then there won't be so many game modes in OSRS and they won't even be talking about private severs. RS3 has always been one game without all those game modes.

https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Category:Game_modes

Rest assured, players may still leave when they are tired of the game modes, but note that Jagex has far more than just RS3 and OSRS. They own SCUM and Pipeworks. They also operate the Earthlock series, This Means Warp, Melvor Idle, Planetarion etc plus at least 2 new unannounced Runescape games in the making, and likely more Jagex Partners games too. That's Jagex's company-wise strategy. They are diversifying the company, definitely not putting every game into just 1 game.

11-Sep-2023 17:33:00

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :
^^
You ignored the TIME factor. All MMORPG require some form of "grinding" but modern games have reduced grinding or even "skips" to endgame. RS3 is leaning toward the modern game and reduce their grinding
They nerfed combat xp, then they nerfed necromancy xp. That is the exact opposite of what you just said lmao

11-Sep-2023 18:48:37

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Sc Jw said :
Dilbert2001 said :
^^
You ignored the TIME factor. All MMORPG require some form of "grinding" but modern games have reduced grinding or even "skips" to endgame. RS3 is leaning toward the modern game and reduce their grinding
They nerfed combat xp, then they nerfed necromancy xp. That is the exact opposite of what you just said lmao

Have you seen today's updates:

Invention and Necromancy AOE are getting a very nice buff. So are some monsters have their damage cap removed. This is called rebalance in RS3, not blindly adding vertical power creep.

11-Sep-2023 18:57:27

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :

Have you seen today's updates:

Invention and Necromancy AOE are getting a very nice buff. So are some monsters have their damage cap removed. This is called rebalance in RS3, not blindly adding vertical power creep.
The Invention update is in response to the combat xp nerf dropping it's rates too. But the overall combat rate is staying nerfed, and it had been here for years. Necromancy rituals are still far faster xp than combat, even with the AoE buff, but it's staying nerfed too. So everything I said was true, you got busted yet again, and are now trying to backpedal out of it.

Nerf Nerf Nerf.

Speaking of Necromancy it came out because your beloved EoC SUCKS . It is not, as you say, the future of Runescape. That title now goes to Necromancy and they have all but said that.

EoC is a dead end, because it sucks, and always has.

11-Sep-2023 20:03:07

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2006

Dilbert2001

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Necromancy is a skill with 2.3 mil xp/hr. We can max Necromancy in 5 days. RS3 is obviously and simply a game with much less grinding than some old dead grinding game that take years to max. EOC is head and shoulder ahead of Legacy Mode that's why vast majority of players don't use Legacy Mode in RS3.

RS3 is also a game with no worries power creep. The player driven economy of RS3 is also being balanced with new features and content aimed toward the fun for all kinds of players of all kinds of skill preferences and levels. Putting the grindy OSRS with Jenga economy, power creep and failed Ruinous Powers in a game with RS3 just won't work.

11-Sep-2023 20:24:50

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :
Necromancy is a skill with 2.3 mil xp/hr. We can max Necromancy in 5 days. RS3 is obviously and simply a game with much less grinding than some old dead grinding game that take years to max.
Have you done any rituals, especially at higher levels? (looks at high scores) No, no you haven't. To hit that 2.3M/hr, and you can't after the nerf, takes some rather grindy sweaty and pay near absolute attention to "training". Even before nerf I don't think I broke 2M until somewhere after 107 when I could put attract 3 on my cape.

And don't try to tell me otherwise, I did 150M before the nerf and the rest after, 99% of it rituals.

Dilbert2001 said :

EOC is head and shoulder ahead of Legacy Mode that's why vast majority of players don't use Legacy Mode in RS3.
The vast majority of RS3 players use EoC because of the dps rate is much higher, and that was a design decision on Jagex's part. When legacy mode exceeds that, and it does for certain slayer tasks (moss golems, ripper demons, etc), then many switch to it.

The vast majority of Runescape players are in OSRS, not RS3, and that's legacy. RS3 is tiny in comparison. Even if you call 1/3 of it bots they still outnumber RS3 by 2:1.
Dilbert2001 said :

Putting the grindy OSRS with Jenga economy, power creep and failed Ruinous Powers in a game with RS3 just won't work.
But...but...you said, and this will never get old:
Dilbert2001 said :
If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game
First you edited the post to try to make that go away, then you deleted it. But it just keeps sticking around lmao

11-Sep-2023 20:49:33

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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I have higher level character in Necromancy and I know we don't get 2.3 mil xp/hr from level 1. It still doesn't change the fact that we can max Necromancy and other skills in a very short time compared to the snail paced OSRS. Some player even comp'ed RS3 in one month.

EOC is more powerful than Legacy Mode so we use it because most players want to be more powerful in RS3 than legacy mode, so be it. It is called natural selection.

For the last time, this is what I meant all the time, please don't keep going back in circle:

"Putting the grindy OSRS with Jenga economy, power creep and failed Ruinous Powers in a game with RS3 just won't work."

11-Sep-2023 20:59:08

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :
I have higher level character in Necromancy and I know we don't get 2.3 mil xp/hr from level 1.
You don't get it at 59 either, which is what you are. And you aren't going to get to a high level quickly without buying a lot of ink, which I didn't. I made all of mine from scratch.

Dilbert2001 said :

It still doesn't change the fact that we can max Necromancy and other skills in a very short time compared to the snail paced OSRS. Some player even comp'ed RS3 in one month.
Which is why quite a few players try out RS3 and then quit it after a short period of time. Too easy. I've seen that quite a few times.

Dilbert2001 said :

EOC is more powerful than Legacy Mode so we use it because most players want to be more powerful in RS3 than legacy mode, so be it. It is called natural selection.
And Necromancy tops EoC, because it's the replacement for that crappy system. I kinda like it actually.

Dilbert2001 said :

For the last time, this is what I meant all the time, please don't keep going back in circle:

"Putting the grindy OSRS with Jenga economy, power creep and failed Ruinous Powers in a game with RS3 just won't work."

There is no last time fella, you made a blatantly false statement and then tried to hide it. Twice. But this time I took precautions to keep that from happening. Your statement above is the exact opposite of what you said just a few days ago. Here, let me help remind you (too bad I didn't capture the date):
Dilbert2001 said :
If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game

11-Sep-2023 21:17:23

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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^^^
Maybe I should make that my signature...

11-Sep-2023 21:17:52

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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"I have higher level character in Necromancy"

I don't know which part you didn't understand. I have 100+ Necromancy toon just for Raisal and combat. She didn't get 2.3 mil xp/hr. Jagex officially told us some one got from level 1 to level 120 Necromancy in 10 days. It is still very fast, especially compared to OSRS.

ROFL! Players play RS3 and other modern and most successful online game not because of the grind to max, but the endgame content. In RS3, players don't even need to max and still begin doing endgame content like Telos, Masterwork armor, Master Quest Cape etc already. That's not what players and bots do in OSRS. They just either grind for a decade or farm gp aimlessly.

Necromancy is the 4th Combat Style, not a replacement of the other 3 combat styles obviously. Obviously there are content like DKS that can't be completed with Necromancy. In OSRS, new content replaces old content and they don't have an ability based system like EOC that they can build on with multiple new combat style. That's a reason why they can only reskin old content and call them "new". They can only have power creep in OSRS, but we can't have that in RS3. Just think how they can implement Necromancy in OSRS then we have a clear picture when the two games can't be combined into one.

11-Sep-2023 21:30:12

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