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Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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"Potential buyers are likely to include private equity firms, which could use Jagex as a platform to buy a string of smaller companies within the sector, one source said."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/carlyle-weighs-options-for-runescape-creator-jagex-sources/ar-AA1gnLxj

Reuters predicted Jagex will be buying a string of smaller companies within the game sector after the sale, similar to SCUM and Gamepires, but perhaps more of them. It means they will be further diversified, not combining their games into one.

08-Sep-2023 23:49:40

Sc Jw
Jun Member 2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :
"Potential buyers are likely to include private equity firms, which could use Jagex as a platform to buy a string of smaller companies within the sector, one source said."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/carlyle-weighs-options-for-runescape-creator-jagex-sources/ar-AA1gnLxj

Reuters predicted Jagex will be buying a string of smaller companies within the game sector after the sale, similar to SCUM and Gamepires, but perhaps more of them. It means they will be further diversified, not combining their games into one.
That isn't what YOU said so once again:
Dilbert2001 said :
If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game
You lied, and then you edited your post thinking it would "go away". But having dealt with you before I knew it was best to quote you, which sticks around...

Whoops!

09-Sep-2023 00:15:38

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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Tranq said :
I'd point out the fact that Runescape 3 is the evolution of Runescape. We tend to name things as players. Let's watch the evolution...

Runescape > Runescape (2) (some players didn't like it) > Runescape HD (high definition graphics were born) > Runescape (EOC) (many didn't like it threatening to leave to private servers) (finds an old full save copy of Runescape at the end of 2007, uses that but people got to start over). > (Evolution of combat and new graphics fully implemented) Dubbed Runescape 3.

So while it would be nice to bring the community back together... Both communities are way different, many that play Runescape 3 have the mentality play one, play the other, play both whatever floats your boat. There are still many that play old school that still have a bitter taste in their mouths when it comes to evolution of combat. I think had they rolled out revolution for the ability bar at the beginning of EOC for the non-button mashers that can still have the click and wait combat the community wouldn't have fractured.

That's right! Many OSRS players have already noticed they can actually use Revolution mode, which is far better than Legacy Mode without any knowledge of abilities. OSRS players can play RS3 too, so no need to combine OSRS and RS3 into a new game.

09-Sep-2023 00:19:25

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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Z om B1 e said :

The community is negative over something that the company created and was doing right and is divided over what it did wrong. Looking at what Old School RuneScape and RuneScape 3 did right and implementing into one game with the removal of EoC would bring the player base to come to together and play one game because it's like having something more than one product and people don't get the full benefit of enjoying one product because it could be making more revenue with the product being kept under one name instead of it being

What RS3 did right was to implement Revo and then also added Legacy Mode (although rarely used) to EOC. What OSRS did right was to add MTX like Bonds and Partnership so they had some money to keep the game afloat.

There really don't need to be a single game. EOC, Revo and Legacy mode may not be fresh enough to keep RS3 staying on the right track forever, that's why they did something even more right by adding a game changing 4th ever combat style in Necromancy.

09-Sep-2023 01:29:56

Sc Jw
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Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :

What RS3 did right was to implement Revo and then also added Legacy Mode (although rarely used) to EOC. What OSRS did right was to add MTX like Bonds and Partnership so they had some money to keep the game afloat.
But that's not how it happened lmao.

They tried to force full manual EoC down our throats Nov 2012. When that blew up in their face they panicked and released OSRS Feb 2013. Revolution wasn't released until Feb 2014, and Legacy July 2014.

And now they are publicly saying that Necromancy is an attempt to get people used to full manual. There is a small subset of the player base that likes that kind of "twitchy" combat, and more power to them.

But the vast majority do not. If it wasn't for revolution I don't think RS3 would still exist.
Dilbert2001 said :

There really don't need to be a single game.
But but but YOU SAID:
Dilbert2001 said :
If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game
Oh, that's not going away lmao
Dilbert2001 said :

EOC, Revo and Legacy mode may not be fresh enough to keep RS3 staying on the right track forever, that's why they did something even more right by adding a game changing 4th ever combat style in Necromancy.
Necromancy actually ticked a bunch of people off. For some it's "new BiS", and thanks for nuking all of my prior skills and the billions in gear for them. For others it doesn't quite work right with revolution. And they flat up crapped all over legacy. Then there is the boss requirements for both upgrades and quests. Yeah, not everybody is happy with this skill.

And I say that as somebody who's about to hit 200m in it so pfffttt to that thought too fella.

09-Sep-2023 03:34:06

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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We can all just log into RS3 and see how many players are on Legacy world. Hardly any RS3 players like Legacy Mode. Meanwhile plenty of OSRS players also play RS3 too. When you see these long time OSRS players playing RS3 in EOC or Revo++ modes, you know the tide has turned. In 2013, there were far less online games and skill (or ability in RS3's term) based combat (or EOC in RS3's term) were less polished with lesser audience. Look at all the games in 2023 now please, they all have EOC-ish combat, and actually RS3 is learning from their Skill (ability/talent in RS3's term) Tree mechanics.

Players need variety in 2023. They don't play a game just to get 200 mil xp. Hence cookie cutter games grinding and leveling games are very dead. That's why RS3 doesnt want to be such a dead game. That's why Jagex is working on games not dumbfounded by aimless grinding and leveling like SCUM and their own Survival Game.

EOC is not just for RS3 itself, it is for the future of Jagex, as all those non-browser games are going to have ability based combat, regardless they call them EOC or something else.

09-Sep-2023 15:39:40

Sc Jw
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Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :
We can all just log into RS3 and see how many players are on Legacy world.
I'm pure legacy, did 200M slayer with it. But I spend more time these days off legacy worlds than I do on them. I've run into several that use legacy combat but have the EoC interface active. There are more people using legacy than you realize.

The numbers would be even higher if it wasn't for the drastic difference in dps, especially AOE for mobs. They go look at wiki for a rev bar, set it up, and that's it. They don't give a crap about manually triggering abilities, they just want to click a monster and kill it.

Dilbert2001 said :
Players need variety in 2023. They don't play a game just to get 200 mil xp.
Tell that to Baas, and pretty much every 5.6/5.8b xp player. I know quite a few people doing exactly that, and I'm one of them.

Just because YOU don't like to do something doesn't mean that others don't. Legacy, revolution, full manual, skilling to 200m, that's variety. Whatever floats a person's boat, it all pays the same, and increases the player base to keep it offered (which is why they do it).

Dilbert2001 said :
Hence cookie cutter games grinding and leveling games are very dead.
I can't believe you said that. You have to level/build up your character/empire/space fleet in just about every game made in order to progress.

I noticed you have many skills at virtual 120, and some to 200M. You must be one of those who likes playing "grinding and leveling games". What's the busiest world? W84, were people grind and level their skills...

Quit trying to tell everybody else how best to have fun at or within a game. You do you.

11-Sep-2023 03:48:13

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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^^
You ignored the TIME factor. All MMORPG require some form of "grinding" but modern games have reduced grinding or even "skips" to endgame. RS3 is leaning toward the modern game and reduce their grinding, however they still want to give the small minority of players the option to grind slower with legacy mode.

The choices are for the players. We have fast leveling option in RS3. We also have the old school snail pace grinding methods in RS3. We have something in the middle like AFK centric activities. All kinds of choices are in RS3 already. When even old school players can still play RS3 the old school way with old school skilling and killing, and Legacy Mode too, literally OSRS players who are interested in old school content still find them in RS3. They can just come over to RS3 if they want, or they can play RS3 and OSRS at the same time. Hence, no need for a combined version of Runescape.

11-Sep-2023 15:41:28 - Last edited on 11-Sep-2023 16:19:36 by Dilbert2001

Ms Toxicity
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The later posts in this thread are tangential to the original topic posted - the removal of RS3 and OSRS, for both to be incorporated into a new evolution of RuneScape.

Please be mindful when making claims (such as quoting statistics without relevant sources). Not every reader of this thread will come to the same conclusion. Subsequent arguments, about how others' opinions are incorrect, only serve to derail the thread further.

Likewise, please be careful when editing posts. It does seem disingenuous to amend a prior post, after a later response from another. If you must edit, please make sure that you make a footnote in the post about the nature of the edit.

I recommend that the discussion returns to the original topic posted. If you have nothing else of value to contribute, please avoid posting here again. Please remember to report posts/players to the Forum Help V3 sticky thread, which/who are disrupting threads to derail discussions.

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