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Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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I have already provided you with the video of the person who told us about the 2.1 - 2.7 mil xp/hr rate. I don't care if you don't him or not. That's what he told us. If you have any questions go ask that person Maikeru. I have his name and the video on a comment on this page already, I am not going to repost it.

Do blacksmiths have to wear all the armors they create? Not in RS3. Even level 3 combat players can smith Masterwork and make huge profits. Sorry, not such luck in OSRS for skillers. Skillers are treated very differently between RS3 and OSRS. They can't be one game.

Endgame content may requires end game skills? How surprising? The question is how fast can we get to endgame. It is very fast in RS3 to get 99 Smithing compared to OSRS. Again, apples and oranges here. OSRS can't dream to be RS3 skillers.

What? We don't have to wear or bring anything. We have abilities bars in RS3. We can fire up an ability in a second or two, but cooldown between weapon specials in OSRS are minutes. You got the two things totally mixed up. That why I wrote OSRS weapons specials aren't abilities.

12-Sep-2023 02:56:06

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :

What Power Creep in RS3?
I first gave you an example using AGS figuring you'd be smart enough to take the hint. But nooo, so let's go with more recent. When I came back ascensions and nox were bis for range. Stepping into GWD1 with those was like, wow, these guys are fricking noobs. Think they were each around 300M, call it a bil total for all 3.

Now ascensions are "next to worthless". Why? Because better gear is out, hits harder, kills faster. That's called "power creep".

Dilbert2001 said :

We rebalance items, and nobody complains about power creep.
There was NO REBALANCING, the new gear was just flat up stronger. And I've seen LOTS of comments about "power creep", it's not like it's subtle either. But such is the nature of things. Back in the day GWD1 was actually "tough", now I afk it.

With a 2006 avatar and a 4B xp account, to try to claim the things you do just alerts everybody that you are incapable of telling the truth. You lie, and not just a little bit.

Worse, you can't just "let it go" and have to double down on stupid. I'd be too embarrassed to post anything if I had posted even a fraction of your nonsense and then been called out on it.

Editing a post cuz you made a "oopsie", then denying you did it, and then when caught again deleting it to see if that would fix it? That's genuine...

Dilbert2001 said :
If you are aware of big news from Reuters earlier, you should know they are "shifting" RS3 and OSRS into one new game

Were did you get that? Hmm? You've quoted the article so you obviously read it. So why did you make this blatantly false statement?

12-Sep-2023 03:19:26

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :

I have already provided you with the video of the person who told us about the 2.1 - 2.7 mil xp/hr rate.
Not until after confronted about it, until then you came off like you spoke from personal experience. But you aren't, just mouthing what you saw some random utuber say "for views". I on the other hand have been there and done that.

Which is confirmed by just glancing at my account on hiscores.

Dilbert2001 said :

I don't care if you don't him or not. That's what he told us. If you have any questions go ask that person Maikeru. I have his name and the video on a comment on this page already, I am not going to repost it.
Good, cuz it's out of date and full of crap. And here's another one for all such "influencer". Reporting a peak rate as the be all end all is utter nonsense. What's much more important is the average over time.

Because you get tired, make mistakes, want something to drink, go pee. I prefer to do that in a real toilet, not a bottle.

Dilbert2001 said :

Do blacksmiths have to wear all the armors they create? Not in RS3. Even level 3 combat players can smith Masterwork and make huge profits.
Never made masterwork, have you? That crap takes forever, another been there and done that. Even killed the cows for my custom fit, just because ('twas funny actually, had to be there)

And they still have to A) grind to 99 smithing, and B) make a full set of elder rune armor first. And NO level 3 can wear it cuz you need 90-92 defense for that. Which is another grind.

You just like loosing, don't you? Masochist tendencies I take it.

The good news is I'm done for a bit, think I'll go watch some tube with the wife, have a real life, outside of RS. Might even go touch some grass tomorrow. Or maybe not, we'll see, 'tis fun to watch you scramble.

12-Sep-2023 03:38:18

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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@Sc Jw

I sincerely ask you to stop deflecting the topic to me, the person, in every post, especially I clearly told and showed everybody the links that the sources came from

Jagex officially

and a respected veteran RS3 content creator. Jagex clearly told us that it took the first person only 4 days to race to 120 Necromancy. Even after the 20% nerf, it would be only 5 days.

Making Masterwork is great gp per hours for smithers, the AFK way too. Skillers in RS3 can make good gp/hr, even the AFK ones, compared to OSRS. The disparity of economics and treatments to skillers make it very hard to accommodate players from RS3 and OSRS in one game. If you want to play a game, with a great player driven economy with less grinding in the degree of the most popular MMORPG in 2023, RS3 is the game. However, if you like the long hard gridning process of leveling and don't care about the rewards, especially when you are a skiller, then OSRS is the game for you.

12-Sep-2023 16:14:16

Z om B1 e

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For all the people that are commenting RS3 and OSRS are the same game they just have differences like graphical updates and some have more updates than the other. They can change it to one game because all it takes it work and the sad part is EoC is killing RuneScape over people not understanding the updates Jagex makes and it's not non-sense. All RS3 and OSRS has is content that can be shifted into one game. And milking a game would be stealing and taking peoples money over false revenue. I'm getting a bit overwhelmed on how many people don't want the games to change.
I'm also getting overwhelmed at the arguments because it's simple when you understand foundations. A dying player base makes no money and you call milking surviving? The truth is some people don't understand statistics when it comes to making a game successful and making revenue when the potentiality of video game comes from the company and making a game is not community driven but company driven in seeing their content and how to shift it to making it so that it attracts a player base in the study of making a game in computer science.
People who disagree are only followers and people who think that their issues matter and don't want things to change because you think it runs 'smoothly' when in reality the bases is, is that games can die and be out worn but keeping a game with good gameplay and dated updates that keeps it thriving while you don't know what success comes from when it comes to making a video game. A GAME IS NOT ABOUT MONEY BUT ABOUT STABILITY IN FUNCTION IN KEPT MAKING REVENUE AND A STEADY SET OF FLUXUATING COMING IN REAL LIFE BENEFITS.

Z om B1 e

21-Sep-2023 19:02:02 - Last edited on 21-Sep-2023 19:04:54 by Z om B1 e

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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@Z om B1 e

Why are you making and commenting on multiple threads on the same thing? It won't make your arguments valid at all even if you create over 9,000 threads on the same thing.

EOC is obviously prospering and it helped Jagex to keep making strong revenues and record growth years after years. EOC helped RS3 to grow their revenues by 18% and 20% in Jagex's last 2 financial reports. Evidently RS3 with EOC outperformed the video game industry significantly.

Jagex is not milking RS3. In fact, they have been investing consistently in all kinds of new content and technologies for the next 20 years.

We can't say the same thing for OSRS, however, they are OSRS's issues and don't mistake them with RS3. If Jagex can fix OSRS for the future, it is great, but their fix doesn't have a thing to do with RS3 at all.

21-Sep-2023 19:17:31

Mixed Slush

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21-Sep-2023 21:46:39

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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" it could be making more revenue with the product being kept under one name instead of it being divided and causing arguments over what's better."

The contrary is true. All game developers are busy diversifying their investments and making different games of different genres out of their original game.

We are not going to have not just OSRS, but plenty of other Runescape games. AFAIK, there are also a Survival game and an Action Adventure game in the making. If you have done the recent "Have Your Say" Survey, you probably should have the idea that Jagex is planning on making even more Runescape games other than just OSRS.

From what I see, different game modes can be implemented in different games with different unique genres. For instance, GIM may better suited in the Runescape Survival Game with coop features instead of the traditional MMO with economy, and all combat oriented game modes can be grouped into the Action game without the hassles of lore and RPG elements.

22-Sep-2023 18:26:22

Jun

2019

Sc Jw

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Dilbert2001 said :
Why are you making and commenting on multiple threads on the same thing?
Pot meet kettle...
Dilbert2001 said :
EOC is obviously prospering and it helped Jagex to keep making strong revenues and record growth years after years. EOC helped RS3 to grow their revenues by 18% and 20% in Jagex's last 2 financial reports.
January 2013 RS3 started with an average of 46k players online and and slowly dropped, with some peaks in between, to 27k in July of this year. OSRS started with 40k, dropped to a mere 11k come July 2013, and has been consistently climbing to 98k as of July.

As I type this there are 112,533 OSRS players online but only 23,772 RS3. The only reason RS3's income increased this year is MTX. But there is a limit to how far they can push that which they just ran into with Hero Pass.

Dilbert2001 said :
We can't say the same thing for OSRS, however, they are OSRS's issues and don't mistake them with RS3. If Jagex can fix OSRS for the future, it is great, but their fix doesn't have a thing to do with RS3 at all.
See the numbers above. If RS3 had grown like OSRS has instead of loosing players we wouldn't be having this discussion.

EoC was a disaster, OSRS wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the screw up with that rollout.

23-Sep-2023 03:19:50

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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"Old School RuneScape
@OldSchoolRS
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19h
We had a special guest on yesterday's stream!

Mod Sween joined to address the growing discontentment around botting in OSRS.

To hear everything he had to say on the matter, check out the VOD:"

https://youtu.be/l5rJyg0QEdQ

Mod Sween has made an 180% u-turn and confessed OSRS has a very important botting problem.

OSRS bots that even their marketing Jmod Sween confessed just a few days ago compared to real content for players in RS3. Apples and oranges.

23-Sep-2023 16:15:01

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