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Dilbert2001
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Miu said :
Dilbert2001 said :
we are by no mean interacting with anybody or any environmental content in and open world MMORPG

RS3 in a nutshell, then. That's why we need this remaster so desperately.

We aren't remastering anything "desperately", I believe they are just ADDING more and more ways for the bigger and bigger community they are welcoming to enjoy this RS3 forever game.

12-Dec-2023 16:17:48 - Last edited on 12-Dec-2023 16:18:21 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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@Miu

DXP weekends and whatnot's you mentioned in your last post are absolutely not in the agenda of the Runescape Remastered project in the discussion of this thread. Neither is your graph which is totally off topic.

Please reread my OP again for what my thread is about. Thanks.

12-Dec-2023 16:30:38

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said :
Please reread my OP again for what my thread is about. Thanks.

There is no Runescape Remastered project anymore. As your OP states, it's been cancelled. Your faulty conclusion that its components are being integrated into RS3 are completely false.

- Takes place at the end of the 6th Age.

Maybe? That's just a writing element. Jagex makes it up as they go along.

- Open more expansive world with the removal of the blocky grid-system/0.6 second tick system.

Keep dreaming. Never happening. Even 0.3 seconds is a pipe dream for Jagex.

- Added height features and a more 3D world than RS3 (think of Skyrim).

RS3 has talented artists. Maybe the game engine can handle their talent. Maybe not.

- Allows for Offline skill training.

We've had asynchronous skill training for years in the form of farming. Actually earning the XP while offline would be expensive for server costs and isn't really feasible. It would really need a new engine entirely, and isn't going to happen in RS3.

- An ability to shapeshift into a variety of NPCs/content.

As stated REPEATEDLY, this has been around since 2004. Yes, you can perform actions while transmogrified. We've turned into imps, goblins, and brave barbarians.

If you falsely assume this means new playable races? It's not happening. Jagex can't even finish remodeling the player kit. The issue is not animations for drinking or using abilities. Animations aren't hard with the team Jagex has. The issue is compatibility with thousands of cosmetics and sets of armor. To create a new playable race throughout the entire game means an absolutely incredible amount of testing for wearable equipment, and increases workload for every new piece of equipment going forward.
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12-Dec-2023 16:38:49 - Last edited on 12-Dec-2023 16:56:50 by Miu

Miu

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- Community oriented markets, cities, and other mechanics.

Last I checked, the "church of you" has been scrapped. Community is hardly big enough to support a city, as player count listed above shows ;)
- World roaming bosses for PvM.

This... isn't revolutionary or particularly interesting by any means. We have wolf bosses roaming Fremmenik country every couple of seasons. It's not special.
- Unique PvP interactions across the game world."

RS3 has turned PvP voluntary in the wilderness, absolutely shattering the region's identity. I guess you can consider them "unique PvP interactions" since you'll be lucky to find more than a couple people engaging with them.


In summary, none of what RS Remastered proposed is unique to MMOs or Runescape in general. The idea that they're being integrated in RS3 is nonsensical confirmation bias. These bullet points are generic and vague, and feature components that have already been in Runescape for over a decade, or simply aren't compatible with the game entirely (which is why it would NEED a remaster to be implemented). Forever game indeed!


Long live Runescape remastered! :P
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12-Dec-2023 16:44:44 - Last edited on 12-Dec-2023 16:45:36 by Miu

Dilbert2001
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"Church of you" was an ideology, it wasn't even an existing content and non-existing absolutely can't be remastered.

Not all proposed content of all Runescape variant in 2001 were implemented in Jagex's games, for instance Warding, and hence they are never in the scope of the Runescape Remastered project at all.

I don't know why you keep bringing up the the graph that shows us the concurrent population of RS3 has been rising the recent weeks, while other similar MMORPG are tumbling hard... like 25.

12-Dec-2023 16:56:51

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said :
"Church of you" was an ideology, it wasn't even an existing content and non-existing absolutely can't be remastered.

Not all proposed content of all Runescape variant in 2001 were implemented in Jagex's games, for instance Warding, and hence they are never in the scope of the Runescape Remastered project at all.

I don't know why you keep bringing up the the graph that shows us the concurrent population of RS3 has been rising the recent weeks, while other similar MMORPG are tumbling hard... like 25.

Good to see you have no rebuttal for any of my points except some red-herring arguments to try to divert attention from the truth. There's no remaster in RS3, and RS Remaster's components aren't being added to it. RS3 has enough scrapped content on its own. The scrapped game is going to stay scrapped rather than integrated piecemeal into RS3.
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12-Dec-2023 16:59:50

Dilbert2001
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Miu said :
Dilbert2001 said :
"Church of you" was an ideology, it wasn't even an existing content and non-existing absolutely can't be remastered.

Not all proposed content of all Runescape variant in 2001 were implemented in Jagex's games, for instance Warding, and hence they are never in the scope of the Runescape Remastered project at all.

I don't know why you keep bringing up the the graph that shows us the concurrent population of RS3 has been rising the recent weeks, while other similar MMORPG are tumbling hard... like 25.

Good to see you have no rebuttal for any of my points except some red-herring arguments to try to divert attention from the truth. There's no remaster in RS3, and RS Remaster's components aren't being added to it. RS3 has enough scrapped content on its own. The scrapped game is going to stay scrapped rather than integrated piecemeal into RS3.

Please read my posts throughout the entire thread again, there is no new game called Runescape Remastered, but evidently we have seen the content originally in Runesape Remastered being implemented in the current version of RS3. We have also seen Jmods of the now defunct Runescape Remastered projects in the RS3 Team now.

We can all see new community hub in Fort Forinthry. We have seen breakthrough graphics updates in shapeshifting, animations among other 3D environment graphics. If you don't like it so be it, we have almost 350 million Runescape players who may like the fascinating new updates or at least the potentials of such updates in this forever game RS3.

12-Dec-2023 17:15:09

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said :
but evidently we have seen the content originally in Runesape Remastered being implemented in the current version of RS3. False, see my other posts on this page. Dilbert2001 said :
We have also seen Jmods of the now defunct Runescape Remastered projects in the RS3 Team now. Duh. They're either going to be put on a different team or fired. So this is neither surprising, nor evidence for your baseless claims. Dilbert2001 said :
We can all see new community hub in Fort Forinthry. Having a base where you can see other players isn't anything special. We could call Edgeville a community hub. Remember when Edgeville gets razed by dragonkin? Remember when we can later rebuild it? Different players have different phases of Edgeville, but all exist in the shared area. Fort Forinthy is no different in that regard, and has nothing to do with the ambitions that a remaster set out to achieve. Dilbert2001 said :
We have seen breakthrough graphics updates in shapeshifting, animations among other 3D environment graphics. Once again, this isn't new at all. Jagex has been working on transmogrification for almost 20 years. It's not some radical leap to add transmogrification with animations. Dilbert2001 said :
If you don't like it so be it, we have almost 350 million Runescape players who may like the fascinating new updates or at least the potentials of such updates in this forever game RS3. Nothing to do with the topic.
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12-Dec-2023 17:30:42

Dilbert2001
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I have already addressed and rebutted your claim that we had transformation and such in Castle Wars, as the remastered Runescape will entertain not just changing the pixels of our avatar but also race-like mechanics other MMORPG have.

Jagex have many games other than just RS3 and OSRS. They have an unannounced game in the making which even ex-Jmod Raven has returned to Jagex for apparently. They have SCUM, another multimillion selling foreever game. They have the entire Pipeworks Studio. Jmods from the original Runescape Remastered didn't have to join RS3 if they weren't needed, as there are also other Jagex gaming needing them too.

I don't think having a community hub like Fort Forinthry is anything special, it is just we didn't have such and now we have the making of one in Fort Forinthry. Don't forget the mechanics of the hub too. We have entirely revamped skilling mechanics and new stories in the Fort, we don't just have a featureless Fort like Edgeville.

12-Dec-2023 17:39:37

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