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Dilbert2001
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BrunoNutto said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Carlyle Group legally bought Jagex. Pluto Sama officially dismissed all charges against them in May 9, 2021. Platinum-Fortune-LP is definitely not Carlyle Group, not Jagex.

You don't understand. Plutos Sama no longer say carlyle was part of the conspiracy but that doesn't mean they LEGALLY own jagex if there was a conspiracy.

If you or I bought a stolen car, we'd still have to give it back to the rightful owner if the authorities found out about the theft and tracked the vehicle. The fact that you or I didn't know it was stolen would not give us the right to keep it.

There was no stolen car. Nothing was stolen. Please show us the police record of the "stolen car". No. It was just non-existent.

30-Sep-2023 23:52:41

Dilbert2001
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Mixed Slush said :
https://mmofallout.com/2021/01/25/jagex-carlyle-group-hit-with-rico-lawsuit/

Jagex gone gangster innit. Don't look like gangsters do they. Always the quiet ones innit you gotta watch.

Why did you keep bringing old outdated news when I have clearly showed you the real world actual Court action on May 5, 2021, where we saw Pluto Sama voluntarily dismissed all charges against Carlyle Group:

"https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/California_Central_District_Court/8--21-cv-00133/Plutos_Sama_Holdings_Inc._v._Jagex_Limited_et_al/83/

Please show us where did they have Carlyle Group as the defendants?

"MINUTES [IN CHAMBERS] ORDER VACATING MOTION TO DISMISS by Judge James V. Selna: On May 9, 2021, Plaintiff Plutos Sama Holdings, Inc. dismissed all claims in this case as to Defendant The Carlyle Group. ECF No. 30. The Court therefore VACATES the hearing on The Carlyle Group's Motion to Dismiss 19 set for June 1, 2021, as MOOT. (es) (Entered: 05/10/2021)" - 5/10/2021"

01-Oct-2023 18:40:20

Dilbert2001
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It is very likely Jagex will be sold within 3 to 9 months given the willingness of Carlyle Group and the needs for cash for debt collection from the intermediate holding company JUNE UK BIDCO Ltd.

I can see the new company less likelier to be Chinese, but a global titan though. I don't think Chinese companies like Jagex's community and if they are going to make an offer for Jagex, that community may actually be a drag to the sale price. Rest assured, the likes of Tencent and Netease can still buy Jagex for what they deemed pocket changes, but that probably will happen after they run out of targets with good community like Riot Games.

01-Oct-2023 18:49:27

Mini JIT
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As you made this thread after I first mentioned the RICO case on another thread its getting confusing to keep up. I like to point out I have not posted on this thread on my other accounts even if I was quoted from the other thread. I will just reply on here from now on and copy paste my answer from the other thread:

Dilbert2001 said:
^^
What you quoted was the snapshot of the initial document. It is not live.

As I have shown, on May 5, 2021 from a website showing live dockets actions, Pluto Sama has dismissed all charges against Carlyle Group.

The incredibly obvious fact is the news Jagex has retained Morgan Stanley and Areeen Co. for the sale of the company has been reported for almost a month. How come nobody went to Court to try to stop the Carlyle Group?


Yes, I know the charges against Carlyle have been dropped as I was the one who told you on page 18 of this thread. The links prove they was on the original documents and it's the same case number. Proof of ownership has not been settled. Carlyle has been removed from all the other charges because it happened before they were involved, it does not mean they own Jagex when the sellers had no right to sell in the first place. Like I said it's the same case number. Either way IT DOES affect them.

To answer your question which I already said on the last page is they could be selling to Plutos or to add to that Plutos may have agreed to an outside sale and they get 55% of the money if they prove ownership come June. Morgan Stanley as a middleman bank could keep hold of the money till then....but that's just me guessing.

And to add to that no one will buy Jagex for £1 billion when they are facing RICO charges. The opening post on this thread is just filled with could be and may be by a reporter who did not bother to do 5 mins of research. He should have changed the title to ''Carlyle looking to off load Jagex before the courts shut them down.''

01-Oct-2023 20:38:20

Dilbert2001
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@Mini JIT

"To answer your question which I already said on the last page is they could be selling to Plutos or to add to that Plutos may have agreed to an outside sale and they get 55% of the money if they prove ownership come June. Morgan Stanley as a middleman bank could keep hold of the money till then....but that's just me guessing."


There are no such things as "could be's" in real life laws. Please answer our question why Pluto Sama didn't stop Carlyle Group in retaining Morgan Stanley and Areems to pursuit the sales of Jagex? The real life fact is obvious. They have already tried it in the beginning of the case in 2020 and failed. They subsequently had to totally dismissed all charges against Carlyle Group in May 9, 2021. Their case against Carlyle Group is 100% closed. They have no right to raise the same case more than once. :)

02-Oct-2023 16:03:56

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