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JohanCrumpet
Mar Member 2020

JohanCrumpet

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The association of entire achievements to one individual is baffling. Yes, KoF did have over 170 members for a brief time. Regarding the Kazan thing I'm unsure what you want me to say. I gifted them Rimmington and served as a POC strategist for the clan and forwarded that expansion. Take from it what you will. I'm unsure why this system is so closed, and why there is a right to unilaterally reject a claim of land is beyond ridiculous. I'm attempting to bring a new community to this world that wants a fresh start and wants to contribute in a positive way. And this apparently isn't acceptable, the whole while KoV and Ashdale are at each other's throats. IF you wish to reject positivity and the fresh face of a clan that wants to strt afresh. PoCs are stagnant and fading, and it should be no surprise to you why. My application stands, although I shall go elsewhere if you persist in it's rejection.

12-Aug-2016 12:34:09

Astrazak
Apr Member 2020

Astrazak

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Hiya Johancrumpet.

Thanks for checking out our community. Our goal here is not to be closed off, but to do what is best for everyone. I personally would love to see another clan join up with us, especially one that is interested in roleplay and the like.

I think that my fellow clan leaders have a right to be suspicious about your intent/past. However, let me say this: World 103 is supposed to be a place for a fresh start and where the past is not held against you. Several of us here, myself included, have benefitted from being given the benefit of the doubt, and have built clats that have been succeeeding. I think that we need to hold true to that nature, and give everyone who applies some kind of chance.

Our goal has never been to be some super-exclusive, friends-only community. I recommend that we all remember that this community is for fun, and adding another clan in here doesn't seem to hamper that. I think it's improper to judge an entire clan based on some actions/associations that their leader has done/made (even though they aren't even bad imo).

With all of that being said, Johan, I think you should fix your application and actually re-name your clan if you haven't done so already. I think I speak for a lot of the other clan leaders here when I say that if you revise your application, we will feel more comfortable voting you in or out.

12-Aug-2016 13:35:14 - Last edited on 12-Aug-2016 13:36:23 by Astrazak

Cucco Chaser
Dec Member 2008

Cucco Chaser

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Calls out from the Drama Llama food stand.

Don't forget yall, the coronation for Queen Sora Verus will be this evening at 4PM EST, Kingdom of Varrock's citadel theatre!
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Cucco Chaser
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"He don't look like no cucco chaser to me. Then again, I ain't never met one before."

12-Aug-2016 13:54:55

The Gud Kang

The Gud Kang

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Johan,

This community is really not all that closed off. Please don't pretend like we shouldn't be suspicious of your past. It reeks of "clans" that only exist to start needless drama and egomania with a lack of accomplishments to go along with it.

You have done yourself no favors, of course, with your application and I am sure that you are now aware of that fact. You should also do more research into the community you intend to join before making such authoritative claims. The majority of the community posseses every right to deny you any entry. Of course, you could still claim land on w103. We don't physically own it, but it wouldn't be recognized for our purposes. You'd have to play with yourself.

Finally, make sure you understand the dynamics, too. Kov and Kash are, well, not at each other's throats at all o.O. Land wars are a big part of this world and they do not necessarily reflect any actual drama.

All I see is a guy with a questionable past and a not very well set up clan (if it's set up at all). God forbid we be skeptical of you.

12-Aug-2016 15:18:40

The Gud Kang

The Gud Kang

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Also, Astra,

I rebut your claim that by looking into/possibly denying this guy entry into our world that we are going against the spirit of the community or just trying to be a "community of friends." As it stands we are certainly not all friends, but what we do have in common is we're all dedicated towards making our clans the best pocs out there, and we have a sense of community.

This guy comes from a group like Youyou who just set up "clans" with few real members and try their best to start shit that rarely actually leads to war. Starting fresh only goes so far if you have an established pattern of behavior.. I'm not saying that he is exclusively guilty of this, but it warrants looking into his past and getting an idea of what he really stands for OR temporarily denying him entry until he can prove that his clan will last a month or three. That's not unreasonable and it's not against the spirit of the community.

12-Aug-2016 15:26:11 - Last edited on 12-Aug-2016 15:27:08 by The Gud Kang

Cairo Saepio

Cairo Saepio

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Actually my big ass ego hates Indie :P

Anyways, I am all for new clans joining the community. However, I do not believe that your clan is really all that set up right now and KASH will be voting no for the time being. However, should you come back with an actual stable clan, then we may be convinced to change that vote.

Speaking of clans that I'm not sure are all that set up, after this application is taken care of, I believe we should really sit down and talk about TK and their state of stability and activity.
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12-Aug-2016 15:29:48 - Last edited on 12-Aug-2016 15:34:07 by Cairo Saepio

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