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Swiss Mafia

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What continues is someone is trying to make me look bad and twisting things to try to do so. I wasn't a trouble maker and I'm still not. You're told that I came in on an alt and he had to add it to the ban list. The fact is this alt was a known alt and was on his friend's list. We had talked on it. It's the one I'd retreated too for being in the FC and providing updates in order to stay out of the General's way. The only reason I spoke in the FC was to have him add it to the ban list. When I logged onto my account it auto logged me into the FC, as it does. So without lingering, without saying another word, I simply said "this one too @New Years" and left. The fact is I gave him 3 alts to add. But that's not how he painting the scene is it? He tried to use it against me. It was a reasonable action on my part and done without any malice whatsoever.

There are numerous things he has said that either did not happen at all or did not happen in the manner he described. I have been told that he claims Motherland and I were both warned when we had a big fight in the FC. That was my warning supposedly. News to me. I have no recollection of any such event and nobody else seems to either. How come there was no fallout from this? How come nobody else has any knowledge or recollection of this? No trace of it anywhere. It never happened!

The FC banned one of it's most active contributors and dedicated supporters for no real reason based on fabricated charges after one of their ranks waged a multi-phased attack against them that was so bold that it resulted in them being wholly de-ranked. The charges against me still have not been substantiated. There is still no evidence that I broke any rules! So throw a whole bunch of other stuff at me, all of which turns out to be based on half-truths and altered or missing evidence. You were lied to, plain and simple.

Really, I'm the one looking silly? Former PCer and rank in the "R Quark", "TH Rares PC" and "Nex and SS" Friend's Chats. Now independently operating.

21-Sep-2016 13:52:33 - Last edited on 21-Sep-2016 13:55:23 by Swiss Mafia

Swiss Mafia

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I wasn't the menace to the FC that I've been painted to be. That's why I still haven't shut up. Instead I was part of the team. I was in the FC daily getting and posting updates, updating the lists, filling in the gaps, watching for manips, everything a rank does. I was still acting as a rank with the blessing of New Years, who understood why I had asked for my rank to be removed. I just could not in good conscience serve under someone who often broke the same rules he was punishing others for breaking. I had mostly stopped doing in-fc pcing because that gave me a high profile and more opportunity to be a target. I lobbied and then would come back and check the chat and capture any updates. I'd answer single pc requests but didn't run lines. Still very helpful though. If I could be, I was online to capture and record updates and just keep a watchful eye on the FC. If the updates started piling up on the forum and DP wasn't around, I compiled them all. I was DP's right hand man. I was there for him. He was having a difficult time with the situation and I was there with him and for him. He's a quiet guy and doesn't like conflict. I was there to support him. You took me away from him for no real reason.

I had provided information to New Years of multiple instances of apparent misconduct that resulted in "him" being put on notice. I literally had to go underground to try to stay out of his way. He was mad. Then a lot of changes were made, the new rules came out. Now he was really mad! And I paid the price for it. Any time he tried to engage me I resisted and reported it to New Years and provided the evidence. I worked on the New rules along with DP, Trips and others peacefully and productively. I provided shared documents, I wrote guidelines for Pcing and the kick rank guidelines. We worked to tweak the rules here and there where they were unclear. All was good.

Then I was banned for no real reason after he went nuts on me. Former PCer and rank in the "R Quark", "TH Rares PC" and "Nex and SS" Friend's Chats. Now independently operating.

21-Sep-2016 14:53:41 - Last edited on 21-Sep-2016 14:55:21 by Swiss Mafia

Feb

2023

Hyles

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Short answer: Yes, there is no need to turn your claim into a manifesto.

He edited a quote - fine.
You feel unjustly treated - okay.
You are hurt by some accusations - alright.

We've read through all of this over and over again. No need to beat a dead horse. I have great respect for you, Dardad, and how dedicated you are to every cause you pick up, but it's time to heed the advice I have given you on numerous occasions over the years: In the words of Kenny Rogers, "You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run."

It's time to walk away.

~Hyles~

"The man who acquires the ability to take full possession of his own mind
may take possession of anything else to which he is justly entitled."

~Andrew Carnegie

21-Sep-2016 14:56:43 - Last edited on 21-Sep-2016 14:57:54 by Hyles

Swiss Mafia

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Thanks Hyles. I always appreciate your advice and perspective.

One thing I don't think has been made clear is that I have no other way to try to resolve this than here. Trips doesn't respond. Motherland has no authority in the FC anymore. New Years hasn't responded since I told him I just needed to know whether he was in on setting me up or if they just used him to be the one to deal with me. DP doesn't want to get involved, and I respect that. Aotd and I have been respectfully talking trying to get facts straight but aren't able to resolve anything on our own. And the false accusations that started it all keep coming and coming. It's not me perpetuating this. It's the FC trying to make up a story around what they did that is.

I decided to go through my screen shots and found one I'd like to share with whoever is in charge. I sent it to Trips but got no reply. Former PCer and rank in the "R Quark", "TH Rares PC" and "Nex and SS" Friend's Chats. Now independently operating.

21-Sep-2016 17:50:46

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2014

Trips

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I'm not in charge of anything in this fc. I don't add or remove any kos and never even asked or wanted my smiley. I'm there if new years wants a second opinion on something but for the most part my input has minimal influence on the fc. I just respond to this thread from what I know and based on previous experiences. Been trying not to respond in depth too much recently because when I do it causes pages of rants/repeats of what was already said a month ago...

21-Sep-2016 18:13:40

Oct

2019

Sea King

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Swiss Mafia said :
1.5 Ban List

The FC ban list is determined at the sole discretion of the FC owner. Any player may be banned from the FC for any reason at any time in order to maintain order in the FC.

Lee M
Trips
Motherland
New Years
ELITE STACK
Wardje
Utmost
Elitecosby

I just saw this. If you guys don't like, ask him to remove your name from it. If you are willing to chuck your most precious possessions like phats because someone said words like crashing/dying/quitting and then find yourself unable to rebuy for what you sold for, then you don't deserve to own a phat.

23-Sep-2016 08:22:22

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2021

New Years

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He can do as he likes. Doesn't pertain to our FC Organization. He will remain temp banned until Ranked members vote when they see a change in behavior. [ SoF/Th Rares | Disc. Rares ]

23-Sep-2016 20:05:50

Swiss Mafia

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Ramesses II said :
The problem here is that the two person (co-owners) who imposed these rules have no clue what they are writing about. In other words,

they don't seem to understand their own rules.

Also @master rocky. First thing I would have to say is that you have been one of the best price checker in that FC. Your daily price checks have been excellent.

If I was you don't waste your time. I think R Quark needs a player like you.

Regarding to this one here, it appears that ranks are resigning with top R Quark ranks / legit player leaving (with nice excuses).

It appears that the FC is corrupted

and that the co-owners are warning each other nowadays (see Sof/TH) thread about not following the rules (I.e. Official spokesman spamming off-topics etc).

To be honest with you, the only person who is trying his best to solve the issue is New Years. Although, he may have taken this problem in an inappropiate manner, he is willing to help.

The one you are talking about is the other co-owner namely the corrupted so-called judge or official spokesman as stated in your post.

Ignore that dangerous person

and directly seek New Years because the person (wont mention his name) has a bad history with R Quark and other clans.

@master I wish you all the best and I hope you will carry on the price check for another FC that respects your free speech and price checks.

The official spokesman or so-called corrupted judge have not done a single price check,

why are you punishing hard working players who is trying to help the comunity

?

Shame on you

.

Thanks for the advice and I'm happy to see someone is on my side. Sorry things got a little crazy and I didn't get a chance to reply. I highlighted everything I agree with that you said. Thanks for your support! Former PCer and rank in the "R Quark", "TH Rares PC" and "Nex and SS" Friend's Chats. Now independently operating.

24-Sep-2016 05:35:34 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2016 05:37:44 by Swiss Mafia

Ramesses II

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Although I thought you were innocent but it appeared that you screwed that trust.

After all your repeated post I have decided to stay behind New Years.

I am not a rank but making a new thread and making these drama is beyond pathatic.

Rame

Edit:

In general that post was against the ex-official spokesman and not New Years.

24-Sep-2016 12:57:15 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2016 13:00:30 by Ramesses II

Swiss Mafia

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Ramesses II said :
Although I thought you were innocent but it appeared that you screwed that trust.

After all your repeated post I have decided to stay behind New Years.

I am not a rank but making a new thread and making these drama is beyond pathatic.

Rame

Edit:

In general that post was against the ex-official spokesman and not New Years.

I see. But I was and still am innocent of the charges. So after I prove that you switch sides? This is what I mean about integrity

Making a new thread? I saw a need and filled it in the interest of helping the community, as I often do. It's all perfectly legit. What's the issue? Former PCer and rank in the "R Quark", "TH Rares PC" and "Nex and SS" Friend's Chats. Now independently operating.

24-Sep-2016 14:12:14

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