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CuddleBucket
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While I do understand where you are coming from, I also feel that it is a clan owners 'duty' to move on if they no longer can take care of the clan. They do not need to leave the clan but can derank themselves so that one more active can take over.
Most new clan updates are only able to be activated by the clan owner and he may have set some things to be owner only. I have set the feature of downgrades to owner only. They would also not be able to rank clannies higher than the highest existing rank. I am sure there are other things they will not be able to do due to an inactive owner.
I am sorry but I don't feel that it is a unreasonable request to replace the clan owner with someone more active.
Your Clan Owner doesn't meet your requirements?
To me, your view is quite frightening.
To think something I'd invested so much love into could be taken away at your whim.
I'm curious about some things which of course you don't have to answer.
1. Are there any features your clan is unable to interact with because of their absence?
2. Did you found clan with said person?
3. Would you be comfortable with this person learning that you're seeking to have them forcibly removed?
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We also have military members in our clan, & when I learn this I offer, & have been taken up on, the option to never remove them, as they can be forced to go inactive for months at a time.
I really do understand your perspective, I just hope you ask what you ask with a full grasp of what you will be taking from this person - I have no idea if there's bad blood but it would be very cruel.
I feel like what you should have done long ago, & should endeavour to do from this point forward, is to contact them when they log in, find out their perspective, & simply get an email address where you can contact them when they aren't active.
Your Clan Owner doesn't meet your requirements.............
To me, your view is quite frightening.
To think something I'd invested so much love into could be taken away at your whim.
I'm curious about some things which of course you don't have to answer.
1. Are there any features your clan is unable to interact with because of their absence?
2. Did you found clan with said person?
3. Would you be comfortable with this person learning that you're seeking to have them forcibly removed?
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We also have military members in our clan, & when I learn this I offer, & have been taken up on, the option to never remove them, as they can be forced to go inactive for months at a time.
I really do understand your perspective, I just hope you ask what you ask with a full grasp of what you will be taking from this person - I have no idea if there's bad blood but it would be very cruel.
I feel like what you should have done long ago, & should endeavour to do from this point forward, is to contact them when they log in, find out their perspective, & simply get an email address where you can contact them when they aren't active.
Your Clan Owner doesn't meet your requirements.............
While I do understand where you are coming from, I also feel that it is a clan owners 'duty' to move on if they no longer can take care of the clan. They do not need to leave the clan but can derank themselves so that one more active can take over.
Most new clan updates are only able to be activated by the clan owner and he may have set some things to be owner only. I have set the feature of downgrades to owner only. They would also not be able to rank clannies higher than the highest existing rank. I am sure there are other things they will not be able to do due to an inactive owner.
I am sorry but I don't feel that it is a unreasonable request to replace the clan owner with someone more active.
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17-Dec-2015 07:39:22
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I understand what you're saying, I think there is simply some missing information.
We are told that he does log in - so what happens when he does?
Does he ignore everyone?
Does he say "I'm staying owner & I don't care!"
They've now developed technology whereby people are able to communicate outside of Runescape - it's in the beta stage but I've found it fairly reliable.
So my point is that information is missing - has this leader said that nobody is to contact him? Does he not care? Being understanding of his worklife is not optional.
I think these circumstances would at least need to be clarified before any action was taken.
(& you don't need to quote a post you respond right after
just adds clutter <3)
Do you see anyone here that just adds clutter?
*hides behind the leader lounge*
I understand what you're saying, I think there is simply some missing information.
We are told that he does log in - so what happens when he does?
Does he ignore everyone?
Does he say "I'm staying owner & I don't care!"
They've now developed technology whereby people are able to communicate outside of Runescape - it's in the beta stage but I've found it fairly reliable.
So my point is that information is missing - has this leader said that nobody is to contact him? Does he not care? Being understanding of his worklife is not optional.
I think these circumstances would at least need to be clarified before any action was taken.
(& you don't need to quote a post you respond right after
just adds clutter <3)
Do you see anyone here that just adds clutter?
*hides behind the leader lounge*
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17-Dec-2015 07:51:58 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2015 11:21:50 by CuddleBucket
CuddleBucket
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I quote so I can easily read the post while I am writing my reply to ensure I don't miss things. Your issue of clutter is zero on my care factor list. (especially when it is written in a colour I find hard to read. Quoting turns it white.)
The point is that their leader has been inactive for over a year, logging in every few months. Yes they probably could ask him to replace ownership with someone active and maybe they have. But they are still pretty much leaderless and that could cause problems I have explained in my earlier post.
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I understand what you're saying, I think there is simply some missing information.
We are told that he does log in - so what happens when he does?
Does he ignore everyone?
Does he say "I'm staying owner & I don't care!"
They've now developed technology whereby people are able to communicate outside of Runescape - it's in the beta stage but I've found it fairly reliable.
So my point is that information is missing - has this leader said that nobody is to contact him? Does he not care? Being understanding of his worklife is not optional.
I think these circumstances would at least need to be clarified before any action was taken.
(& you don't need to quote a post you respond right after
just adds clutter <3)
Do you see anyone here that just adds clutter?
*hides behind the leader lounge*
I understand what you're saying, I think there is simply some missing information.
We are told that he does log in - so what happens when he does?
Does he ignore everyone?
Does he say "I'm staying owner & I don't care!"
They've now developed technology whereby people are able to communicate outside of Runescape - it's in the beta stage but I've found it fairly reliable.
So my point is that information is missing - has this leader said that nobody is to contact him? Does he not care? Being understanding of his worklife is not optional.
I think these circumstances would at least need to be clarified before any action was taken.
(& you don't need to quote a post you respond right after
just adds clutter <3)
Do you see anyone here that just adds clutter?
*hides behind the leader lounge*
I quote so I can easily read the post while I am writing my reply to ensure I don't miss things. Your issue of clutter is zero on my care factor list. (especially when it is written in a colour I find hard to read. Quoting turns it white.)
The point is that their leader has been inactive for over a year, logging in every few months. Yes they probably could ask him to replace ownership with someone active and maybe they have. But they are still pretty much leaderless and that could cause problems I have explained in my earlier post.
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17-Dec-2015 11:33:44 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2015 11:35:33 by Sookie Lala
omg just because you post twice doesn't make it twice as good a point!
I'd love it if your current leadership was aware that getting a contact email when he's next on is crucial, & then have 1 person disscuss this with him to resolution.
He may have views that you don't understand, & you may have views that he doesn't understand.
There was some good points above, & you want the owner position 'usable', that's fair enough.
I hope you are able to discuss this with him - he's likely motivated by positive qualities in his line of work, & I'd be surprised if he was unreasonable when approached by someone who made an effort to understand his position also.
I'd love it if your current leadership was aware that getting a contact email when he's next on is crucial, & then have 1 person disscuss this with him to resolution.
He may have views that you don't understand, & you may have views that he doesn't understand.
There was some good points above, & you want the owner position 'usable', that's fair enough.
I hope you are able to discuss this with him - he's likely motivated by positive qualities in his line of work, & I'd be surprised if he was unreasonable when approached by someone who made an effort to understand his position also.
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17-Dec-2015 11:42:19
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