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Esploratore
Apr Member 2006

Esploratore

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Citadel is content associated with clans and skilling. Neither of which has received much attention for years. No wonder many clans are struggling to survive and can no longer maintain stagnant citadel content.

The "use it every week or lose it" aspect of it is unreasonable. Instead of forcing it, make the clan (citadel) content fun and engaging so people *want* to log in and play it. If Jagex can't be bothered, at least remove the upkeep. If mechanics demand it, lower it to next to nothing. Shorten the time it takes to cap, too.

Citadel content doesn't place enough value on the effort put into the process of building up the citadel over time. It also penalizes those who play it for those who don't.

29-Jul-2016 20:16:03 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2016 20:18:08 by Esploratore

Lucine

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Mod Matthe said :
This has been raised a few times previously - we have no plans to remove the upkeep requirement and consider it a necessary part of the Citadel.

Why do you consider it a necessary part of Citadel (specifically Tier 7 citadels)? It is better to fail in originality than to succeed in imitation. ~Herman Melville

30-Jul-2016 02:03:48

Lisaa
Jun Member 2014

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Vera said :
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30-Jul-2016 04:01:06

Ignore List
Sep Member 2011

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I still don't mind upkeep being removed - I do feel that the upgrade costs of citadel and cosmetics should be super high to balance out

How ever citadel dilapidation if it needs to stay could be based solely on visitor count - it's far easier to get people to visit and leave since they don't need to cap.

My clan has had tier 7 since 2012 i don't understand why at tier 7 we still need to pay upkeep? we have all cosmetics and everything, as it stands the citadel is a chore :(
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30-Jul-2016 11:58:09

Iron Faery
Jul Member 2007

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Upkeep isn't real issue to us. We had T7 long years, 4,5 years we have been doing... nearly nothing: decorative elements. Got everything customized and nothing to build, only thing we can do is upkeep and it doesn't make clan happy or motivated.

My clan is average total lvl is 2100+ Included members pure accounts. When citadels were released most of us didn't need extra xp, had maxed accounts and back then we had only 1 account per user in clan list.

Much later 120 capes were released and it boosted some interest but citadel got only few and old skills, some of them you can train easily.

Why we need to carry dead content?

Add ANYTHING please, add even some new decorative element, it shouldn't be really hard.

Add new boss statues, there are no Kalphite King or raid bosses or Telos.
Please, I say anything to spark people interest again.
If it isn't new skill plot at least show that you see and care, that we are not carrying something that is totally dead.

I can understand if some personally liked-disliked things in game are getting dusty and forgotten but this is clan effort you just can't leave clan content behind like that.

Clans and friends bring people online, make them feel welcomed. Make them feel their support is appreciated and needed. Clans motivate people play and this is very important personal touch, nothing can replace it. We're happily doing it and doesn't want our people quit game.

Right now, with the citadels you make people feel that their effort is wasted.
Useless, pointless, time consuming dead content. And if we let it die it would be big fail, disappointment people about the clan and game too.

Don't you see community aspect in it?

Clan is a home in game, place to feel good. We're doing it with useful activities and good company. But carrying outdated annyoing citadel is unattractive. Some people have little personal interest in xp there but most my clannys cap only for the clan. How long?

31-Jul-2016 18:02:28

Iron Faery
Jul Member 2007

Iron Faery

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Ok Mod Matthe, if you say upkeep stays:
Then look at the new updates and new challenges every week, people want and need to do. There goes time and attention. New useful and fun things all the time. And then we need to remember and remind citadel without making it disgusting...

Citadel needs not only upkeep but updates!

We doesn't want to carry dead content and we really can't, forever. It is a clan thing, it is a community thing, it's important to keep it nice and useful, to make community stronger and people work together, log in and help out.

We doesn't want to make citadel forced upon clannys only because we made T7 and now have to upkeep it. We want it to be natural part of clans life - nice and appreciated. But it's really hard without any update, without even tiny cosmetic updates and especially when all new skills are missing there.

Skill pets came out.
Can we get skill pet from citadel?

Raids came out, many new bosses came out.
We can't even build any new statue, we're stuck with all built, all customised but it's all old and outdated. Everythime when I look at the list what to build with leftover resource, there is nothing new, nothing fun or exciting.

New skilling methods and places were released meanwhile and new ones coming up, citadel xp can't compete with it.

We can't express there what made us so strong and long-lasting: adapting new fun things in the game but saving the culture. Nothing new to build, nothing new to achieve at the citadel.

I'm sorry for my upset and harsh tone but it's me who needs to listen people and then put extra energy in it to motivate my clannys. I don't want to lose old friends, see them dropping offline or feeling guilty for ignoring citadel. I only express what people say and show off.

It's quite common that loyal clannys feel bad for not helping, they're nice people and feeling guilty but the game game gets updates and citadel got nothing new.

24-Aug-2016 15:59:11

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