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Zyphix
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Haviks said :
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Shauny can do as Shauny pleases? We can't decide where Shauny does his polling and whatnot.

The consequence of this is that anyone who is not in the Discord server has zero input on the direction of clan updates. We did not join this forum just to be ushered into a player-run Discord server, especially one that has been plagued by bias and censorship.

This locks so many of us out from being able to give feedback. It's not fair, it's not right, and it needs to change. It's Shauny's job to manage this forum, and he's been completely neglecting it in favor of the Discord server. He posts here occasionally to say something is going to go live and that's it. We get zero input, while people in the Discord server have direct access to him.
While I'm on the CLD, and rarely utilize it - I agree 100% with this. If you work for a company, you should be working on their product, through their product, to spread their product - not someone else's. Clan:
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21-Jul-2018 02:02:39

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Loki said :
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Life isn't perfect; live with it.
That's an apathetic attitude. Not very progressive, for being progressivist, in my humble opinion... And I have NO issues with anyone here. But I am calling it as I see it in this thread.

Thank you Shauny for adjusting as per your duty with JAGeX, and also, I have NO issues with you using Discord, nor the CLD to do what you do, however, if one thing is done there, it should be mirrored here asap as well, or prior.

I think you do a great job, and I'm sorry you're going to be in positions where you're just sucked into a dramatic mix of situations and circumstances, but hey, all par for the course.

In regards to players, when Shauny isn't at JAGeX, and is using HIS FREETIME/TAPP time to bring all of us updates, please, take a f'n seat and give the man some respect and appreciation. Whether you have input directly or not, there are updates we ALL need, and WILL likely ALL still use. Clan:
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21-Jul-2018 02:13:57

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I don’t want these forums to disappear, as I think it holds a unique and formal type of communication. However, we need to accept the fact that people use Discord WAY more than forums. It’s just a fact. It’s a quicker form of discussing things with hundreds of people. It may not be an official server, and may be run by a random clan leader, but it helps us keep up with the times and definitely helps Shauny and others communicate with us (and vice versus) more than ever before.

Also, yes there are rules about sharing personal info but like someone else said, CLF members are held to a higher responsibility. Plus, Discord has become such an important gaming platform that I think sharing tags should be allowed. Everyone does it anyway, regardless. Side note.. I’m pretty sure a big percentage of the RS community now are adults and it should be held at their discretion to share their Discord information. Especially since it is way safer than TeamSpeak for example. °
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22-Jul-2018 04:31:33

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I think it's important to keep in mind that both CLD and CLF are a privilege, not a right. That being said though, the privileges are being maintained by two different entities - one by a Jmod and one by clan leaders.

Unless Shauny becomes actively involved in maintaining the privileges of CLD, then to me, it'd be best if all official communication runs through CLF - which I think Shauny has already realized and has transitioned to.

That shouldn't mean Shauny can't be apart of CLD or contribute to CLD, but definitely think the official communication should be run through CLF.

If Shauny wants to transition CLF to Discord officially then I think he should set up and maintain the server.
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22-Jul-2018 05:41:40

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Shikimoko4 said :
I think it's important to keep in mind that both CLD and CLF are a privilege, not a right. That being said though, the privileges are being maintained by two different entities - one by a Jmod and one by clan leaders.

Unless Shauny becomes actively involved in maintaining the privileges of CLD, then to me, it'd be best if all official communication runs through CLF - which I think Shauny has already realized and has transitioned to.

That shouldn't mean Shauny can't be apart of CLD or contribute to CLD, but definitely think the official communication should be run through CLF.

If Shauny wants to transition CLF to Discord officially then I think he should set up and maintain the server.

Couldnt agree more and communication can run through both CLD and RS Discord but the request of feedback should be mirrored as clan leaders are banning leaders that in the eyes of Jagex have not done anything wrong and have received no strikes to their account so why should CLD prioritise the feedback when they are restricting members that cannot voice their opinions but have every right to. Creator of the Clan Leader Discord & Clan Discord
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22-Jul-2018 15:27:45

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Archaeox said :
Salcos said :
The discord is not inclusive at all and all you have to do is make one of the admins not like you to lose access.
Theoretically all you have to do is make one of the JMods not like you to lose access to the CLF, too.

The fact remains that the CLD is successfully allowing Jagex Staff to sample opinion in real time, and giving players pretty much unprecedented access to the developers of clan-related updated.

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24-Jul-2018 15:45:03

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Zyphix said :
Haviks said :
J4ron said :
Shauny can do as Shauny pleases? We can't decide where Shauny does his polling and whatnot.

The consequence of this is that anyone who is not in the Discord server has zero input on the direction of clan updates. We did not join this forum just to be ushered into a player-run Discord server, especially one that has been plagued by bias and censorship.

This locks so many of us out from being able to give feedback. It's not fair, it's not right, and it needs to change. It's Shauny's job to manage this forum, and he's been completely neglecting it in favor of the Discord server. He posts here occasionally to say something is going to go live and that's it. We get zero input, while people in the Discord server have direct access to him.
While I'm on the CLD, and rarely utilize it - I agree 100% with this. If you work for a company, you should be working on their product, through their product, to spread their product - not someone else's.

Jagex as a company doesnt like the forums, they dont see it as worth maintaining because using other platforms for means of communication is promotion, they if anything will discourage use of the forums, its why theres been minimal effort to improve it over the years.
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24-Jul-2018 15:47:47

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I don't like to use Discord for clan leaders discussion.
I don't like the format, scrolling wall of text.

I prefer forums because of the structure.

For example, maybe I want to discuss a topic with my clan co-leaders or others clannys. Or I just read it late, I think a bit what's the best answer. But the wall of text keeps scrolling and hot topics can change. I care for the proper input.

Sometimes I can't be bothered to read long walls of text. So I miss something important because it's too much to read right now.

I remember when I see a good forums topic - I tend to return days after to see what the other CLF members posted about that.

17-Aug-2018 09:53:57

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