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Iron Faery
Jul Member 2007

Iron Faery

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I had two busy months with hectic life and traveling. Answeing so late.

List of changes looks good but made me ask, if capping half cap at the T7 citadel is taking longer, part of clannys would say T5 with 3 avatars is way more practical. Upkeep needs are small nowadays and the xp from capping is rather unimportant to my clannys.

Some skillers prefer +6% xp for skilling outside but found citadel capping not efficient to them. It's ok to us, as long avatar was at homeworld we appreciated it anyway.

My clan got T7 soon after release, as soon as possible and the clan is 11 years old. A lot of us don't need the current citadel skills anymore. If Jagex added new citadel skills then yes, having bigger cap would be good reason to keep T7.

But with current skills... I'd say, look it up, is it equal enough to ask more work for same bonus from us and let the others under T7 get the same with less effort.

09-Jan-2018 11:13:50

Iron Faery
Jul Member 2007

Iron Faery

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Another question is, if someone didn't visit citadel for a while, for example they made fealty 3 so they can always put on three stars clan cloak or it's override but they didn't go the citadel for weeks or months after it... currently cloak shows them being fealty 3 and they can touch the avatar for the buff outside citadel.

What bonus, if any, would they get from avatar after the update?

I'm totally ok with that when people cap once in a lifetime, we got the others regularly doing upkeep. We are ok with them getting +6% near avatar.

I don't want people to be clueless and totally unaware of citadel skills and benefits but I don't see the need to visit it weekly.

09-Jan-2018 11:24:57

Iron Faery
Jul Member 2007

Iron Faery

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Currently promoting someone to Admin + Avatar Warden means, this player needs to take care for homeworld being covered in first order, to share boost to us all and team with other wardens if they need to hop around. Their attitude needs to be adminworthy.

Avatar warden job curently is the extra motivation to be a great person, not only the skiller with high xp. It made me build the clan and P v M teams worth the effort, that people rather want to stay, improve, get rank up.

When someone asks about it I said: noblesse oblige and if needed I'll explain: nobility obligates . It denotes the concept that nobility extends beyond mere entitlements and requires the person who holds such a status to fulfill social responsibilities. For example, a primary obligation of a nobleman could include generosity towards those around him.

In ethical discussion, it is sometimes used to summarize a moral economy wherein privilege must be balanced by duty towards those who lack such privilege or who cannot perform such duty. Finally, it has been used recently primarily to refer to public responsibilities of the rich, famous and powerful, notably to provide good examples of behaviour or to exceed minimal standards of decency.

So whoever wanted to be an avatar warden, they had to be great in the clan where standards are high. It was good, motivating.

Over the years I remember few players who got downranked and became unable to summon avatar after that. One of them is avatar warden again, one of them awaits for uprank and gets it soon.

So if avatar bonus gets totally separated from ranking, I'm losing one of my tools but we'll see how it goes. I bet I can still motivate people to bring their best manners.

It would affect the clans where leaders easily downrank instead of trying out the diplomacy. I guess our clan culture should be strong enough to adapt the update but what about the clans where leaders highly rely on control over xp.

09-Jan-2018 12:33:32 - Last edited on 09-Jan-2018 12:35:01 by Iron Faery

Lyrehca

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Iron Faery said :
Another question is, if someone didn't visit citadel for a while, for example they made fealty 3 so they can always put on three stars clan cloak or it's override but they didn't go the citadel for weeks or months after it... currently cloak shows them being fealty 3 and they can touch the avatar for the buff outside citadel.

What bonus, if any, would they get from avatar after the update?

I'm totally ok with that when people cap once in a lifetime, we got the others regularly doing upkeep. We are ok with them getting +6% near avatar.

I don't want people to be clueless and totally unaware of citadel skills and benefits but I don't see the need to visit it weekly.

When this update goes live, anyone keeping 3 fealty stars on their cloak without visiting Citadel would not be entitled to any avatar boost at all.

In order to claim the base 3% xp avatar boost, one must touch the stone in the Avatar habitat, forcing them to visit the Citadel. As the boost is only active for 1 week, to keep receiving the boost, weekly visits would be required to maintain it.

The 3% xp buff can be boosted up to 6% based on their fealty, which would require some work at the citadel - enough to earn the quartermaster xp bonus. Keep in mind, the skill plot avatar boost will cut any work time in half at the citadel, so people can earn their fealty much quicker.

09-Jan-2018 14:18:47

Lady Aurora
Apr Member 2010

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I'm really looking forward to this update, I know its been in the works for some time.
A couple comments I do have however:

- Removing the Heal Over Time buff - Yes, it is not normally used other than say for Corp, just voicing the concern of what I've seen in the community. If possible and it's not too much trouble with coding a lot of us would like to keep this buff.
- Skill Plot Bonus , I used to have an issue with removing this, but due to recent reduction of rates to maintain citadel tiers I no longer think this buff would be a "loss".

Regarding the rest of the avatar buffs I honestly don't see them used often. Defence cape perk & Divination revive you, area loot grabs your orts (plus the update will nullify orts so there's that).
Perhaps we could have a poll on which top 2-3 avatar buffs to retain? All in all, I'm super hype for this clan update!
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09-Jan-2018 22:49:03

moons n suns

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"- Clan admins can customise the clan's avatars' appearance at the control stone"


This is only if you have the permission to do so right? I don't like giving people the permission to change things on a whim.

09-Jan-2018 23:59:39 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2018 00:00:53 by moons n suns

Ceecs
Mar Member 2010

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moons n suns said :
"- Clan admins can customise the clan's avatars' appearance at the control stone"


This is only if you have the permission to do so right? I don't like giving people the permission to change things on a whim.


As u can set it now already as permission, I think that will remain then
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10-Jan-2018 18:33:07

Ninmci

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if everyone has there own avatar . ie 500 avatars are they only able to have 1 of the 3 avatars.

shauny has already said he wants to give us a completely different avatar for poh if you dont mind killing 1 of the pets you have in poh.

having 500 different avatars running round a clan world might cause havoc but i hate them anyway .

So i think i will settle for my 3% bonus for touching avatar stone and 6% if i can be a good clan leader and cap. (leaving all avatars in citadel wer they belong)

if my clan had 52 people visit the citadel this week and those 52 people asked there 52 avatars to cap in citadel .

That will give my clan a mega load of wasted resources each week


Rofl can i bank them and use them on the surface world .(no definitely not world domination totally against that)

Definitely more Clan activity on surface world.

10-Jan-2018 21:09:23 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2018 21:19:08 by Ninmci

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