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Krisi,

Not all actions are voluntary, some are forced - eg rogue admin, hacks, etc. Moreover, I don't see why a single lapse in judgement or behavior should result in someone's 2 or more years of work being erased if they choose to immediately return to the clan.

This is just a game, and not everyone is at a mature age. I'm going to need some better reasoning than that to consider your opinion. Thanks for posting! :)
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25-Jan-2015 10:31:40 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2015 10:32:52 by Body btw

SofaKing

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If someone wants to keep their xp gained in a clan then maybe they shouldnt leave it in the first place... However, in the case of having to kick inactive members; if they were to log back in a few days after they were kicked, and be able to re-join, then it would be nice if they got their xp back, for the clan's sake.

No support, for now anyway, theres 100 more important things to do to clans

25-Jan-2015 11:27:45 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2015 16:42:04 by SofaKing

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Scret said :
Zyphix said :
Bresmine said :
No support. Actions have consequences.
I was going to support, but yeah, it's better they don't. I'm sure this was considered by JAGeX long ago and decided already. Sure, there's two really good listed benefits, however, phished accounts wanting back in to scam the rest of your clan members, etc? What if a clan uses ranking by XP? Those accounts have rank with access to kicking etc etc... Just one scenario.

Just one of those things better left alone. Nothing wrong, don't fix it.


Phished accounts wanting back in to scam the rest of your clan? what does that have to do with clan xp?

Security and safety of your clan is a completely separate matter.
I already said it right there, re-read it if you need to. The scenario is complete. I suppose the point you missed is that not all clans are operated the same way. Surely, changing this will affect some clans in ways (hypothetically) that you can't seem to grasp right now. Which is why I bring it up. I would be alright with the change, but there are situations we're not considering. And that was just one I could come up with immediately. Crude example though, indeed.
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26-Jan-2015 05:02:09

Scret
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Zyphix said :
Scret said :
Zyphix said :
Bresmine said :
No support. Actions have consequences.
I was going to support, but yeah, it's better they don't. I'm sure this was considered by JAGeX long ago and decided already. Sure, there's two really good listed benefits, however, phished accounts wanting back in to scam the rest of your clan members, etc? What if a clan uses ranking by XP? Those accounts have rank with access to kicking etc etc... Just one scenario.

Just one of those things better left alone. Nothing wrong, don't fix it.


Phished accounts wanting back in to scam the rest of your clan? what does that have to do with clan xp?

Security and safety of your clan is a completely separate matter.
I already said it right there, re-read it if you need to. The scenario is complete. I suppose the point you missed is that not all clans are operated the same way. Surely, changing this will affect some clans in ways (hypothetically) that you can't seem to grasp right now. Which is why I bring it up. I would be alright with the change, but there are situations we're not considering. And that was just one I could come up with immediately. Crude example though, indeed.


Lol again like i said, it doesnt matter how your clan operates, clan xp has nothing to do with the security you need to install when dealing with phished accounts. Regardless of if your ranks are based off of xp youre not going to give a previously phished account instant access to admin features.

---That scenario will take place if your clan xp was returned or not---

This is a totally irrelevant argument aginst this. its about restoring lost xp on return to a clan not security measures.

Its a completely irrelevant argument and separate issue.
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26-Jan-2015 06:43:50 - Last edited on 26-Jan-2015 06:45:49 by Scret

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I don't support what so ever. People leaving in clan is just a natural thing that happens and we should just all accept that, no matter how it happened. Our goal as leaders is to help prevent these issues reaching to that level, if we fail then so be it. For the good or for the worse.

In all, it's about playing on an even playing field. If someone leaves that's a reset to zero no matter what. It keeps things fair and simple in all aspects for clan highscores.

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This argument needs to be directed towards making temp mutes or bans on members without letting them fully go. These issues will keep reoccurring without those tools as leaders and I do support for something like that. We are just attacking something that doesn't resolve the real problem.

26-Jan-2015 07:32:34

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This would require Web Team development and as such is unlikely to be possible at the moment - they are rather locked out with RuneLabs.

I can also see some potential design and technical issues with the idea so I think it would require considerable investigation.

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