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Mar

2018

Scret

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CuddleBucket said :
@ Scret,

Because it's the Looking for Founders forum.

Your argument is don't make any more forums just randomly assign new material to existng forums?

What Ranny wished to do has no place in the Looking for Founders forum.

Having a forum for people looking for founders is perfectly reasonable, it's how I found people all those years ago.

It serves a specific purpose, & it works.

To randomly say "Oh & let us use it for this other thing too just because" is so stupid.

I understand if he wants a new forum.

Wanting to post things other than looking for founders in the Looking For Founders forum is so stupid.

Theres no reason as to why the specific forum cannot be expanded to utilises a number of uses as doing so would not take away anything from its existing purpose.

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06-Apr-2017 21:44:32

Mar

2018

Scret

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Shamk said :
Scret said :
Why create a new forum when you can just make better use of the already existing one.

In my personal opinion, I agree with you. I think the forums could be doubled up, and it'd be easier then say creating a new forum. (What would it be called anyway...Looking-for-Founders-But-Only-Founders-For-Established-Clans?)

Makes more sense to double up.

Yet either way, new Forum or Rule change, one or the other I strongly believe has to happen.

To give poor Tren a vacation.

*Edit* The forum could be called: "Looking for Clan Staff"

Kudos Subzero.

Yup that name works heh

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06-Apr-2017 21:47:30

Seer of War

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Isn't this why clans have recruitment threads? To recruit members.

Then we spend time with our members in the clan itself and notice who may be a good fit for leadership.

I don't really think we need a specific thread simply for recruiting leaders - you should look inside your own clan.

I am unaware of any successful clans that hand out leadership ranks to anyone that wants it, and I would strongly caution against that strategy to fill your leadership team.

Regardless, I don't think this is an issue that Jagex can (or should) solve for us. I also don't believe that a thread to Look for Staff would be the solution. Rather it would just devalue leadership ranks since it could easily be "expected" instead of earned. Not to mention the potential for giving leadership to someone that can do real harm to your clan.

If you really don't feel that you have any leadership potential in your clan then maybe you should reevaluate your criteria for leadership positions and take a fresh look at your active members.

Ultimately this is what leadership is - problem solving. If what you've been trying isn't working then I would advise that you reevaluate and try as different approach. But offering people you hardly know a high rank in your clan isn't the solution in my view. You are as likely to harm your clan with this approach by putting the wrong people in power as you are to find a strong leader that can be an asset.

Just my 2 cents

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08-Apr-2017 10:17:20 - Last edited on 08-Apr-2017 10:29:30 by Seer of War

Mar

2018

Scret

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Seer of War said :
Isn't this why clans have recruitment threads? To recruit members.

Regardless, I don't think this is an issue that Jagex can (or should) solve for us. I also don't believe that a thread to Look for Staff would be the solution. Rather it would just devalue leadership ranks since it could easily be "expected" instead of earned. Not to mention the potential for giving leadership to someone that can do real harm to your clan.

If you really don't feel that you have any leadership potential in your clan then maybe you should reevaluate your criteria for leadership positions and take a fresh look at your active members.

Ultimately this is what leadership is - problem solving. If what you've been trying isn't working then I would advise that you reevaluate and try as different approach. But offering people you hardly know a high rank in your clan isn't the solution in my view. You are as likely to harm your clan with this approach by putting the wrong people in power as you are to find a strong leader that can be an asset.

Just my 2 cents

Well with a clan thats trying to revive usually the case that there isnt members to select as leaders from the clan therefore people look to the forums, also how you should choose your leadership is subjective. you should do what you thinks best.

So the question is why shouldnt you be able to look for leadership in an already existing clan? could you do it in the find a member forums? absoloutly but it would be a lot more effective to do it in find a leader section.

And yes considering this is the forums run by Jagex and rules made by Jagex they quite clearly SHOULD solve this for us if we see that something can be changed.

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08-Apr-2017 20:17:39

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2023

Shamk

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Seer of War said :
Isn't this why clans have recruitment threads? To recruit members.

Then we spend time with our members in the clan itself and notice who may be a good fit for leadership.

I don't really think we need a specific thread simply for recruiting leaders - you should look inside your own clan.

I am unaware of any successful clans that hand out leadership ranks to anyone that wants it, and I would strongly caution against that strategy to fill your leadership team.

Regardless, I don't think this is an issue that Jagex can (or should) solve for us. I also don't believe that a thread to Look for Staff would be the solution. Rather it would just devalue leadership ranks since it could easily be "expected" instead of earned. Not to mention the potential for giving leadership to someone that can do real harm to your clan.

If you really don't feel that you have any leadership potential in your clan then maybe you should reevaluate your criteria for leadership positions and take a fresh look at your active members.

Ultimately this is what leadership is - problem solving. If what you've been trying isn't working then I would advise that you reevaluate and try as different approach. But offering people you hardly know a high rank in your clan isn't the solution in my view. You are as likely to harm your clan with this approach by putting the wrong people in power as you are to find a strong leader that can be an asset.

Just my 2 cents

I mean absolutely no disrespect, but did you Fully Read my presentation on page one? I have a hard time believing you'd say this if you had.

You might also view some of my other posts just to be sure.

Looking for ranks outside of say your clan, or mine, is silly. We have plenty of members and even qualified ones for staff ranks. But I'm not referring to clans like ours at all.

Not to say large clans don't sometimes need serious help, but they aren't really my focus with this forum.

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08-Apr-2017 21:28:52

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2023

Meek

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Scret said :

Theres no reason as to why the specific forum cannot be expanded to utilises a number of uses as doing so would not take away anything from its existing purpose.

Completely agree. The only thing stopping this really is the pseudo-police force ensuring the safety of all forum users from the evils of inappropriate posting.

08-Apr-2017 23:21:34

CuddleBucket

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I think it's more about things having a place for a reason.

I don't think anything suggested here as any place in or near the LFF thread.

I agree with Seer of War, this is what your clan recruitment thread's are for.

If people are posting looking for a clan threads you can browse them & respond if you think they are appropriate for you, just like normal.

If you have specific positions to fill, have it at the start of your clan recruitment thread.

I feel like what you're asking for is for Jagex to do the work for you to assist you in poaching players who would otherwise be helping people start their own clan.

In my opinion, thread or otherwise, what you're asking for has no place in the Recruitment – Looking for a clan forum.

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09-Apr-2017 08:34:22

Seer of War

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Shamk said :

I mean absolutely no disrespect, but did you Fully Read my presentation on page one? I have a hard time believing you'd say this if you had.

You might also view some of my other posts just to be sure.

Looking for ranks outside of say your clan, or mine, is silly. We have plenty of members and even qualified ones for staff ranks. But I'm not referring to clans like ours at all.

Not to say large clans don't sometimes need serious help, but they aren't really my focus with this forum.

Yes I read your thread lol. I know exactly what I said and I stand by it.

This proposal is asking for trouble for clans that are already having hard times. Even the founders that people find on the current thread don't always work out. What makes you think finding leaders in this fashion would lead to a better result?

I do not believe that Jagex should normalize this by creating a thread to Find Staff for the reasons I already stated. It would mislead clans into believing that handing out leadership ranks to players they barely know is a viable solution (and I sincerely believe that it would end up causing much more harm than good - which is why I posted in the first place.)

This would not just impact clans that are struggling to find leaders, but also established clans. Jagex should absolutely not normalize the idea that players can expect to join a clan and receive a leadership rank. That may be a specific clan's policy - but for Jagex to endorse, enable, and normalize this by creating a thread for this idea would absolutely not be beneficial to the overall clan community.

I read through this thread before I replied, and frankly I believe that this idea is opening a pandora's box that would potentially have dire consequences. That is why I replied - because I absolutely do not believe Jagex should implement this idea. Nothing I've seen on this thread leads me to believe otherwise. Sorry.

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09-Apr-2017 14:01:12 - Last edited on 09-Apr-2017 14:14:53 by Seer of War

May

2023

Shamk

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CuddleBucket said :

In my opinion, thread or otherwise, what you're asking for has no place in the Recruitment – Looking for a clan forum.

Seer of War said :
I read through this thread before I replied, and frankly I believe that this idea is opening a pandora's box that would potentially have dire consequences. That is why I replied - because I absolutely do not believe Jagex should implement this idea. Nothing I've

In that case, I respect both of your opinions and your reasons for not endorsing this idea whatsoever.

In case anyone has been counting though, the majority vote is in favor of either removing the rule or adding a different thread for Looking for Staff purposes

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09-Apr-2017 21:08:42

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2018

Scret

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CuddleBucket said :

I think it's more about things having a place for a reason.

I don't think anything suggested here as any place in or near the LFF thread.

I agree with Seer of War, this is what your clan recruitment thread's are for.

If people are posting looking for a clan threads you can browse them & respond if you think they are appropriate for you, just like normal.

If you have specific positions to fill, have it at the start of your clan recruitment thread.

I feel like what you're asking for is for Jagex to do the work for you to assist you in poaching players who would otherwise be helping people start their own clan.

In my opinion, thread or otherwise, what you're asking for has no place in the Recruitment – Looking for a clan forum.

And maybe a count to 50 thread has no place in a clan forum

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