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Lady Alicia
Dec Member 2005

Lady Alicia

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Elipile:
While I did not get that clue after the reset; that clue would offically make 4 clues for one location.
I do think that it could have been an oversight on Jagex part of not updating all the clues.
None-the-less very interesting information!
Really makes ya wonder if Jagex is trying to switch things up for us.

04-Feb-2009 21:32:31

elipile
Sep Member 2005

elipile

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Secretwishes
For what I have tried to prove here, is that those 3 or 4 clues are not for one and same location but each for their own araes.
- kingdom of Kandarin is for the area wich southern part is the surroundings of Castle Wars
- south of Ardogne is for the the area wich southern part is Yanille
- around Ardougne is for the area wich southern parts are north of Battlefields and north of Clock Tower
- near some ogres is for area wich northern parts are just south of Castle Wars to just south of Yanille.
Depending on the route of her***g the CW penguin in Yanille wall, it would have to visit or as I say activate either Kandarin/around Ardougne/south of Ardougne clues or Kandarin/near some ogres/south of Ardougne clues.
While you were asking clues, the penguin moved from area to another activating the clues attached to those areas and that is why you got the different clues.
Why there is one clue that is not fitting in these sketches is the mystery - for now atleast.
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04-Feb-2009 22:02:57

elipile
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Nice Boomer,
We have a chance to try to get those clues now, while we have Karamja penguin roaming during the week.
Or we can even try to herd it (in some other world) to the possible clue areas and check what clues Larry will give.
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04-Feb-2009 22:06:21

Lady Alicia
Dec Member 2005

Lady Alicia

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Actually;
South of Ardounge has been used for Gnome maze as well as; Yanille; CW; and a few times around the ogres; reset locations and have remained the same clue even though they moved around.
I know I go at least 4-5 times in a reset week to see if they have changed and have gotten the same clues as reset day; except for this week.
CW has also had the clue along the ardougne west coast line; which was seen up till 5 weeks ago.
Another reset location that has this clue was the observatory and red slaly hunting areas.
Around ardy has been from gnome maze; clock tower; khazard reset locations as well as witchhave and legends guild reset.
Jagex picks a clue they want; they are not set.
Also the clue does not change becasue a penguin wanders from one part of ardounge to the other or is forced from one area to another.
An example of this was last week with the clue "Where Eagles fly" this penguin was driven from its original area clear down to Ardy Church and then players were calling this the ardy penguin.
The clue did not change; because the penguin went from one area to another.
I have noticed this with the WWM penguin when it is seen clear over in Varrock = the same clue through out the week.
My comment about Jagex switching things up = changing clues to Locations and experimenting with them...not switching the clue mid week....
I do think you are over thinking this whole thing.
Way to amny players are reading way to much into the penguins.
Also Jagex has left some clues such as the lumber yard penguin with vagueness when in the past it had a specific sawmill clue as was the case the last time a penguin was placed in this area.
Thus throwing off what players have come to expect.
The clue is attached to each individual penguins start point and remains the same throughout the week; just because there are more than 1 clue for a location does not mean ****pirisy

05-Feb-2009 01:05:21 - Last edited on 05-Feb-2009 01:07:40 by Lady Alicia

Fisktalon
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eli
based on your time for cw peng to get to yannile did not see any different clues other than 9 posted on v22 peng locations which u know of
so either they were fast and did not trip clue before they returned to ogres or they stayed in area as they did it
u say they had at yannille area 30 mins after reset
at reset spent first 45mins to hr reading clues
secretwishes will moniter all week and will post any clues that are new this will vet your theory ;) thou am aware that eli has traveled many worlds cking clues then when one weird finding that peng

eli if u are cking the clues and want help trapping call :D
edit: just cked wo58 and recieved a new clue of south of aurdougne this would me probably that cw peng has moved north now to go see :P
fisktalon

05-Feb-2009 02:33:12 - Last edited on 05-Feb-2009 02:49:41 by Fisktalon

elipile
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elipile

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Secretwiches

We have a basic difference in our approach to clues. I think clues are attached to areas and you think they are attached to penguins.

You say that each penguin has a set of possible clues, one basic one and some additonal, and they do not change. Also, if I have understood you right, you say that Larry picks a clue from this clue set randomly.
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"Jagex picks a clue they want; they are not set.
Also the clue does not change becasue a penguin wanders from one part of ardounge to the other or is forced from one area to another."
"The clue is attached to each individual penguins start point and remains the same throughout the week; just because there are more than 1 clue for a location does not mean ****pirisy"

I say that no penguin has any clue of its own, but they do activate area clues and the clue changes acording to the area the penguin roams to. Larry gives us the clues for active areas without any information of what penguin is on it.
I agree with the 3 first examples you gave. All the penguins from the reset locations you mentionded can and have been wandering on the area of the clue you referred to.
But the example of last weeks so called Eagles Peak penguin is wrong. The clue for its reset area was "where eagles fly" but when it was on its way to Ardougne on wednesday the clue I got from Larry changed from "big tree surrounded by short ppl" to "north of Ardougne" to "around Ardougne". At that point, there was no other penguins close to Ardougne: Feldip hills was "near some ogres", Gnome was in the maze "south of Ardougne" and goblin village was "in kingdom of Asgarnia".

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05-Feb-2009 12:24:22 - Last edited on 05-Feb-2009 13:04:12 by elipile

elipile
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I know this so well, because I was part of the team leading Eagles Peak in to Ardougne. I was hopping between Larry in the zoo and then confirming the location of the penguin. The time of my first clue of short ppl was about 17.55 gmt and I found the penguin just south of Gnome Stronghold fence. At 18.40 gmt penguin was very far west near 3 ponds and the clue was "north of Ardougne". And at 21.05 the penguin was in Ardougne church and clue from Larry "around Ardougne". During the time for this clue session (17.35 - 23.30) not once did I get "wher eagles fly" -clue.
I have also lots of info on WWM penguin from the week before, but I will post it and other evidence I have on the reserved posts on this thread.
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05-Feb-2009 12:26:26

Boomer
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Secret,
I have to agree with Eli in this entire thread. She has done *very* extensive research into the clues. I have done only a little bit, but I do see what she means.
I'll try to explain in other words if you don't understand:
There are no set amount of clues for each penguin for each week.
Think of RuneScape like a bunch of Tectonic plates, and every time you move between one plate and the other, you enter a new continent. Larry is our mapper; he is watching the borders between continents. Every time he sees a penguin move across the plates, he gives clues that you have entered a new continent. If you decide to go back across the plate border, he will give clues that you are in the previous continent again.
If you decide to go to a far away continent, you have the option of doing so, even if it is caused by "encouragement" (aka in peng terms, herding) from friends. Say this weeks Feldip penguin really wants to go to WWM. He will cross the border between "South of Ardy" to "Around Ardy/West (really east) of Ardy near the coast", to "Nears bees and flax", to "Around the Castle of Arthur" to "On a mountain of wolves".
Each time you cross the various invisable, but clearly there, borders where the Plates connect, Larry will see that, and give the corresponding clues of where you are.
Hope that helped, sorry if its completely confusing you. ITs 6:45 in the morning for me atm :S

05-Feb-2009 12:46:46

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