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Robbycool
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zamorak bad luck mitigation removed for enrages under 100 %. BASED ON PLAYER FEEDBACK! This is absolute nonsense , which players reccomended this. This is an extremely elitist update aimed to make the boss less rewarding at lower enrages... what did this accomplish.... making people less interested in killing the boss and making drops more expensive.. absolute garbage..... thanks JAGEX bump

20-Sep-2022 10:45:34

Robbycool
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Talk about saying how you want more people to do the new content then u make it less rewarding for less experiences players ....... genius

ABSOLUTELY GENIUS .... please reprimand someone for this horrible horrible elitist update ..... bump

20-Sep-2022 10:47:13

Shaane

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Not too much of a bosser myself - Still learning and getting into higher end bossing, so I haven't touched Zamorak yet.

But would this not prevent the end-game gamers from farming super low enrage to boost their bad luck to then kill high enrage for easier/better loot?

I feel this is a better method than just allowing people to farm super low enrage to boost their drops at higher enrage, now it'll take them much longer and perhaps not worth it, so they'll be farming higher enrage instead?


As someone who wants to be able to kill Zamorak soon - I don't believe I should be earning the same amount of drops, wealth and luck as someone who is better than me and killing it at a higher enrage. Seems unfair to people who learnt the boss and have the skills to kill it.

Seems a great system that when I get better, so do my rewards - More motivation to learn to me.
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20-Sep-2022 11:10:06 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2022 11:12:18 by Shaane

Robbycool
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you get way less drops at lower enrges already , it already scales drop chance to enrage...... soooo your point is moot shaane. They are simply reducing that chance even farther at this point and greifing lower skillcap players. bump

20-Sep-2022 11:14:11

Marikdebie
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Agreed.

While I think Zamorak is very doable with duo's and higher, I still feel Solo Zamorak is still on a complete different and unfair level. One small mistake even on 100% and you"re dead and wasted a good amount of time. 100%, which should act as introducing the last phase, should be scaled down for Solo players. At the moment you need either BIS everything to even attempt it (or cheese it with shatter, which adds a good 5-7min extra on your timer) or are a top level PVMer, which most of us aren't.

Now with the penalty of not getting Bad Luck Mitigation (the one thing that made this boss great), I feel Solo players are really getting the short end of the stick.

20-Sep-2022 11:18:48 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2022 11:19:47 by Marikdebie

Darkzeid
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I got mixed feelings about this update.
The boss is mostly a group boss,as you can do it alot faster than solo.
Yes there has been "calculations" on the drops and so on but let me tell you that,
an average player in solo will never ever do 17 kills an hour.
Im pretty sht pvmr,no doubt and i do feel that people who can do super high enrages should be rewarded but if a solo run at 50% enrage takes me 7-8 minutes, and i get like 7 kills per hour, im not going back there for 2-3m per kill.

20-Sep-2022 11:22:10 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2022 11:24:13 by Darkzeid

Robbycool
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agreed .......... solo players being unfairly treated ...... a good point

p7 solo is much much harder.... making this update even more detramental to solo players who cant beat p7.... which PLAYER FEEDBACK has deemed to be disproportionately high..... bump

20-Sep-2022 11:24:56 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2022 11:26:10 by Robbycool

Shaane

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you get way less drops at lower enrges already , it already scales drop chance to enrage...... soooo your point is moot shaane. They are simply reducing that chance even farther at this point and greifing lower skillcap players.

Ah, if it's only effecting lower players then that's not good.

I assumed this was to try prevent such high level players being able to farm bad luck so easily, by just camping under 100% and then going back to whatever they kill it at normally.

Could of definitely done it in a much better way then.


With some changes to Solak to make it solable, perhaps there will some more solo Zamorak changes to come after this updates feedback :) fingers crossed for the lower skillcape players.




Edit: So according to some more research and listening to feedback on this update.

It seems that before the update, it was only worth doing 50% enrage kills to camp for the best drops, making people kill a boss which is supposed to be a challenge in 3 minutes.

Now the update makes it worth doing kills at such high enrage and stopping the boss being camped at such low enrage.

Sounds like a good thing to me. Sure, people lost their bad luck chance, but these people just need to keep learning and kill it at 100% instead of never improving.
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20-Sep-2022 11:29:37 - Last edited on 20-Sep-2022 13:38:15 by Shaane

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