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Dilbert2001
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One key fact most complaining skillers failed to see is pvming isn't "risk free" even after the Death Cost reduction. All kinds of pvm supplies and consumable crafted by skillers often cost more than the death cost now.

A lot of high end, high reward pvming comes from groups too. They may get a drop, but they will have to split the profits.. and before they can group they have to find the group that a lot of players either don't want to or can't find one. Skilling is for most part solo all the time.

I really see skillers get more benefits and rewards from the update, and the 2% GE tax from both skillers and Pvmers is just spot on.

19-Jan-2023 20:57:28 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2023 20:58:31 by Dilbert2001

Ruby_Red0
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I have yet to see a player that has played this game for any length of time not have the skills to handle their 'skilling' needs.

Im playing 6 or 7 months and can easily handle all of mine as it relates to mats and potions.

A PvMer may not want to do it, but it would be highly unusual to see that they cant. What would they do if their wildest dreams came true and every other player in the game became a PvMer? Would they no longer be able to PvM?

Would the game die? I seriously doubt it.
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19-Jan-2023 21:19:18

Dilbert2001
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I have yet to see a player that has played this game for any length of time not have the skills to handle their 'skilling' needs.

Im playing 6 or 7 months and can easily handle all of mine as it relates to mats and potions.

A PvMer may not want to do it, but it would be highly unusual to see that they cant. What would they do if their wildest dreams came true and every other player in the game became a PvMer? Would they no longer be able to PvM?

Would the game die? I seriously doubt it.

Any average Joe skillers can pvm some bosses. Essentially everybody can kill normal mode Arch Glacor and get the loot in their "wildest dreams" but they skill may not want to do it.

If they don't want to do it while they can, then they have no reason to complain, regardless they are skillers or pvmers or both.

We are getting taxed to narrow the gap between pvmers and skillers so everybody can choose to do skilling, pvming or both. This is a zero-sum tax to encourage everybody in every playstyle to explore things they haven't tried before in the game, with a net positive of eliminating 30 bil gp every day on the side.

19-Jan-2023 21:36:51

Ruby_Red0
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Dilbert, you said skillers are players that serve a PvMers purpose.

What happens if everyone becomes a PvMer?

Who will serve a PvMers purpose then?
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20-Jan-2023 02:22:38

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert, you said skillers are players that serve a PvMers purpose.

What happens if everyone becomes a PvMer?

Who will serve a PvMers purpose then?

I never said "skillers are players that serve a PvMers purpose".

I said something like skillers can be pvmers and pvmers can be skillers in RS3 and still make very good gp/hr.

20-Jan-2023 17:49:23

Ruby_Red0
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One key fact most complaining skillers failed to see is pvming isn't "risk free" even after the Death Cost reduction.
All kinds of pvm supplies and consumable crafted by skillers
often cost more than the death cost now.

A lot of high end, high reward pvming comes from groups too. They may get a drop, but they will have to split the profits.. and before they can group they have to find the group that a lot of players either don't want to or can't find one. Skilling is for most part solo all the time.

I really see skillers get more benefits and rewards from the update, and the 2% GE tax from both skillers and Pvmers is just spot on.

This IS what you said and this is what I am speaking about in my reply to you.
Please tell me English is NOT your first language. I would feel a lot better about talking with you if you did.

You are still playing up this PvM vs. Skillers angle, which stinks.

It has come to light that the Ironman Community may have a significant role to play in all this.
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This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
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20-Jan-2023 17:56:13 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2023 17:57:27 by Ruby_Red0

Ruby_Red0
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*Moved to try to continue focus of thread in the right direction.
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20-Jan-2023 18:02:34 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2023 19:22:08 by Ruby_Red0

Dilbert2001
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One key fact most complaining skillers failed to see is pvming isn't "risk free" even after the Death Cost reduction.
All kinds of pvm supplies and consumable crafted by skillers
often cost more than the death cost now.

A lot of high end, high reward pvming comes from groups too. They may get a drop, but they will have to split the profits.. and before they can group they have to find the group that a lot of players either don't want to or can't find one. Skilling is for most part solo all the time.

I really see skillers get more benefits and rewards from the update, and the 2% GE tax from both skillers and Pvmers is just spot on.

This IS what you said and this is what I am speaking about in my reply to you.
Please tell me English is NOT your first language. I would feel a lot better about talking with you if you did.

You are still playing up this PvM vs. Skillers angle, which stinks.

It has come to light that the Ironman Community may have a significant role to play in all this.

How does " All kinds of pvm supplies and consumable crafted by skillers often cost more than the death cost now." translate to "skillers are players that serve a PvMers purpose"?

I don't even know why you brought "ironman" into my comments. Ironmen are far more often to be both pvmers and skillers too.

You are taking HALF OF one of my sentence severly out of context. Unless you can elaborate in English there is no futher point to compare half an apple to an orange.

20-Jan-2023 18:40:53 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2023 18:42:15 by Dilbert2001

Ruby_Red0
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Original message details are unavailable.
Original message details are unavailable.
One key fact most complaining skillers failed to see is pvming isn't "risk free" even after the Death Cost reduction.
All kinds of pvm supplies and consumable crafted by skillers
often cost more than the death cost now.

A lot of high end, high reward pvming comes from groups too. They may get a drop, but they will have to split the profits.. and before they can group they have to find the group that a lot of players either don't want to or can't find one. Skilling is for most part solo all the time.

I really see skillers get more benefits and rewards from the update, and the 2% GE tax from both skillers and Pvmers is just spot on.

This IS what you said and this is what I am speaking about in my reply to you.
Please tell me English is NOT your first language. I would feel a lot better about talking with you if you did.

You are still playing up this PvM vs. Skillers angle, which stinks.

It has come to light that the Ironman Community may have a significant role to play in all this.



After a visit to the General Forum Dilbert, and reading a post you made there, I dont care what your issue is.

I cant stop you from posting here on my thread, but I have nothing more to say to you.

You are clearly not my cuppa tea.

Have a nice day! :)
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20-Jan-2023 19:04:05 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2023 19:05:17 by Ruby_Red0

Ruby_Red0
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*sigh* unfortunately forced to move this post again.
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20-Jan-2023 19:21:23 - Last edited on 20-Jan-2023 19:30:59 by Ruby_Red0

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