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Repeal the G.E. Tax Please!
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No one has accused Jagex of doing anything other than not hearing what the majority of their playerbase wants, which was, I believe, a mistake.
I understand the importance of getting a big turn out on social media platforms. I hope myself to be a content creator in the distant future, at which point I will work to become monetized, gather sponsors and advertizers, and earn an income on the amount of people I can get to come see the content I created.
Sometimes, those payments from social media platforms become more than what is gleaned from an actual product or service. Afterall, people might follow you on social media easy enough, but that doesnt mean they will ever actually pay for your product or service.
As actual players, we are all paying for a service, with the exception of f2p. If we buy game cards, most of us will pay sales tax on that purchase. So I hope that helps make more sense for some as to why there are people comparing buying game time in the real world, and then having what you paid for nibbled at in the GE.
They made a mistake by merrily telling everyone we are doing this to help out this group over here.
Well, that group over there, if they are not part of a tight ingame network - and I can honestly testify that there are numerous top-notch PvMers that are not - they are going to be getting hit at the GE too.
Will this result in Jagex and the PvM Community remaining euphoric over this? I have no idea.
If the motivation was to get players to try PvM, JMods could have coordinated ingame runs on advertized "No Cost Death" weekends or weeks, like they did with the new release a few months ago. That's when I got my feet wet, but I was only level 112, my skills were lacking, and I told the people I ran with I was not ready yet, because I wasnt.
Im not certain that that was the motivation at all.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
I understand the importance of getting a big turn out on social media platforms. I hope myself to be a content creator in the distant future, at which point I will work to become monetized, gather sponsors and advertizers, and earn an income on the amount of people I can get to come see the content I created.
Sometimes, those payments from social media platforms become more than what is gleaned from an actual product or service. Afterall, people might follow you on social media easy enough, but that doesnt mean they will ever actually pay for your product or service.
As actual players, we are all paying for a service, with the exception of f2p. If we buy game cards, most of us will pay sales tax on that purchase. So I hope that helps make more sense for some as to why there are people comparing buying game time in the real world, and then having what you paid for nibbled at in the GE.
They made a mistake by merrily telling everyone we are doing this to help out this group over here.
Well, that group over there, if they are not part of a tight ingame network - and I can honestly testify that there are numerous top-notch PvMers that are not - they are going to be getting hit at the GE too.
Will this result in Jagex and the PvM Community remaining euphoric over this? I have no idea.
If the motivation was to get players to try PvM, JMods could have coordinated ingame runs on advertized "No Cost Death" weekends or weeks, like they did with the new release a few months ago. That's when I got my feet wet, but I was only level 112, my skills were lacking, and I told the people I ran with I was not ready yet, because I wasnt.
Im not certain that that was the motivation at all.
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RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
24-Jan-2023 19:36:57 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2023 19:46:57 by Ruby_Red0
As a consumer, I know what my options are. As I said, no one controls my purse string but me.
If no one that can change this wants to hear me there is really only one thing I can do about that that might be noticed by a company. They claim they want your style of gameplay to shift to PvM, and thats why this was done - to help those poor PvMers, along with the side benefit of balancing the apparently out-of-wack state the game economy is in.
I am preparing to change my style of gameplay. I am preparing to exercize my rights as a consumer. I am not leaving RS3, I still have hope for it, but merely returning to my roots so to speak.
I am happy with this choice for myself. It is for everyone to decide what makes them happy.
Have fun all!
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
If no one that can change this wants to hear me there is really only one thing I can do about that that might be noticed by a company. They claim they want your style of gameplay to shift to PvM, and thats why this was done - to help those poor PvMers, along with the side benefit of balancing the apparently out-of-wack state the game economy is in.
I am preparing to change my style of gameplay. I am preparing to exercize my rights as a consumer. I am not leaving RS3, I still have hope for it, but merely returning to my roots so to speak.
I am happy with this choice for myself. It is for everyone to decide what makes them happy.
Have fun all!
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
24-Jan-2023 19:37:06 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2023 19:57:11 by Ruby_Red0
Im not ranting, and it would be nice if you would stop claiming I am.
I am certainly capable of getting too ranty, as any one is capable of doing. I believe there is value in rising above emotion whenever possible. As I said - I would prefer calm, intelligent and polite discussion.
It is polite to take me at my word.
I was providing a historical basis that is culturally significant to certain nationalities, as I said I was when I made the post, as to why people are crying "Taxation = Theft". Clearly more than one player has made it onto the forums to voice that opinion.
A Cole says they are the Minority.
A Cole says I and you are the Minority.
Which of us holds more sway? I would guess A Cole.
I do believe the majority said, "Death costs are one reason I dont PvM."
I cant imagine a true poll of the player base came back with, "Yes! By all that is sacred in Runescape, please take 2% of my GE earnings so that the game can support lowering PvM Death costs even though most of us dont participate in PvM." I dont encounter such a loving spirit in game that often, sorry.
I do believe the majority said, "Death costs are one reason I dont PvM."
I can be wrong. Time will tell if I am.
Time will tell if Mel, and John-Punkguy and I Love Ass and anyone else that has chimed in against this is wrong. Clearly we are here, and I dont remember anyone asking my opinion.
I have personally contributed a good amount to balancing the budget yesterday and today while I organize and clean out my bank in preparation. Im not getting rid of everything P2p, but I had a lot of backups that I may not ever use in the end.
If someones - mine or the games - direction changes the option is there for my perception to change.
Im done. Nice meeting you all.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
I am certainly capable of getting too ranty, as any one is capable of doing. I believe there is value in rising above emotion whenever possible. As I said - I would prefer calm, intelligent and polite discussion.
It is polite to take me at my word.
I was providing a historical basis that is culturally significant to certain nationalities, as I said I was when I made the post, as to why people are crying "Taxation = Theft". Clearly more than one player has made it onto the forums to voice that opinion.
A Cole says they are the Minority.
A Cole says I and you are the Minority.
Which of us holds more sway? I would guess A Cole.
I do believe the majority said, "Death costs are one reason I dont PvM."
I cant imagine a true poll of the player base came back with, "Yes! By all that is sacred in Runescape, please take 2% of my GE earnings so that the game can support lowering PvM Death costs even though most of us dont participate in PvM." I dont encounter such a loving spirit in game that often, sorry.
I do believe the majority said, "Death costs are one reason I dont PvM."
I can be wrong. Time will tell if I am.
Time will tell if Mel, and John-Punkguy and I Love Ass and anyone else that has chimed in against this is wrong. Clearly we are here, and I dont remember anyone asking my opinion.
I have personally contributed a good amount to balancing the budget yesterday and today while I organize and clean out my bank in preparation. Im not getting rid of everything P2p, but I had a lot of backups that I may not ever use in the end.
If someones - mine or the games - direction changes the option is there for my perception to change.
Im done. Nice meeting you all.
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
24-Jan-2023 23:45:30
Lastly.
What Benjamin Franklin felt was more harmful than taxes....
“Sloth makes all things difficult, but industry all easy; and he that riseth late must trot all day, and shall scarce overtake his business at night; while laziness travels so slowly, that poverty soon overtakes him.”
~ Benjamin Franklin
Perhaps it was just the easiest thing to do.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
What Benjamin Franklin felt was more harmful than taxes....
“Sloth makes all things difficult, but industry all easy; and he that riseth late must trot all day, and shall scarce overtake his business at night; while laziness travels so slowly, that poverty soon overtakes him.”
~ Benjamin Franklin
Perhaps it was just the easiest thing to do.
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
24-Jan-2023 23:52:38 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2023 23:55:22 by Ruby_Red0
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