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Repeal the G.E. Tax Please!
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The GE tax is the most fair, effective, and minimalistic method of removing GP from the game - something that the "majority of the player base" has been wanting for a while now.
~A~
Let's not mince words. Clearly, if you believe what you wrote here, then you believe anyone not happy with the idea is the minority.
I watch videos that show a year ago Double Surge was 30M.
I wasnt playing when the video was made but within the past couple weeks I paid 65M for a Double Surge. Tonight I watched someone pay 75M for one.
Prices are rising more, and that was a street purchase. The GE wasnt involved.
I wasnt being untruthful when I said I overheard people at the GE complaining that someone is driving up prices, just like I wasnt being untruthful when I overheard at the GE that people were having trouble coming out of Legacy mode.
I listen. I hear a lot of junk but also a lot of sincerity.
I had hoped Benjamin Franklins quote on sloth would have been the last one on this thread.
Seems Im just not meant to have anything I want lol.
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The GE tax is the most fair, effective, and minimalistic method of removing GP from the game - something that the "majority of the player base" has been wanting for a while now.
~A~
Let's not mince words. Clearly, if you believe what you wrote here, then you believe anyone not happy with the idea is the minority.
I watch videos that show a year ago Double Surge was 30M.
I wasnt playing when the video was made but within the past couple weeks I paid 65M for a Double Surge. Tonight I watched someone pay 75M for one.
Prices are rising more, and that was a street purchase. The GE wasnt involved.
I wasnt being untruthful when I said I overheard people at the GE complaining that someone is driving up prices, just like I wasnt being untruthful when I overheard at the GE that people were having trouble coming out of Legacy mode.
I listen. I hear a lot of junk but also a lot of sincerity.
I had hoped Benjamin Franklins quote on sloth would have been the last one on this thread.
Seems Im just not meant to have anything I want lol.
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25-Jan-2023 00:37:59
You have great ideas, Mel.
Jagex should give you a job if you dont already have one and would be interested.
I keep thinking about alching...
As a miner I know there are member bots that farm ores. I used to see them stream out into the Miner's guild and park on a single Luminite ore. It honestly looked like a factory shift change, lol.
You can't miss them. They dont spend a great deal of time working on imaginative character names for one thing, and in the case of mining, they tend to stack up on one ore I guess to try to make themselves appear less noticeable to a passing eye. It might even be the only spot they are kinda safe from the scorpions.
I just got my Cleaner charged up for the first time, but havent taken the time to read about how to use it. I also dont know much about this machine that keeps being referenced. I would imagine since these bots obviously pay for access, they also have access to cleaners and that machine.
Anyway, why not remove the machine and cleaner from the game? Force them to slow their pace and at least buy or make the runes they need to continue making instant gold?
Wouldnt it be a real kick in the head if the bot memberships were "Grandfathered"?
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
Jagex should give you a job if you dont already have one and would be interested.
I keep thinking about alching...
As a miner I know there are member bots that farm ores. I used to see them stream out into the Miner's guild and park on a single Luminite ore. It honestly looked like a factory shift change, lol.
You can't miss them. They dont spend a great deal of time working on imaginative character names for one thing, and in the case of mining, they tend to stack up on one ore I guess to try to make themselves appear less noticeable to a passing eye. It might even be the only spot they are kinda safe from the scorpions.
I just got my Cleaner charged up for the first time, but havent taken the time to read about how to use it. I also dont know much about this machine that keeps being referenced. I would imagine since these bots obviously pay for access, they also have access to cleaners and that machine.
Anyway, why not remove the machine and cleaner from the game? Force them to slow their pace and at least buy or make the runes they need to continue making instant gold?
Wouldnt it be a real kick in the head if the bot memberships were "Grandfathered"?
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
25-Jan-2023 14:50:45 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2023 15:25:08 by Ruby_Red0
@ A Cole
And a year ago, Double Surge was 30M...
I have seen you say that to make changes regarding alching would not be viable. I dont recall seeing a clear reason as to why. Like just now, in reply to me, you seemed to allude to bots returning to the game if those machines were to be removed.
I can see from your perspective that the tax may not seem to discriminate, but unless the thing about subsidizing PvM Death costs is just a cover story to come up with an excuse for it, then it does discriminate against anyone that isnt PvMing. I would think since those people are not risking, and will never get a FSOA drop, that they would be exempt since they will never benefit from the reduced death costs.
Im sorry, but with what we have been told neither of those things make perfect sense.
It hasnt been since the Summer when I was leveling in the Miner's guild, so I dont know what goes on today. Back then it was an easy stack of 15 to 20 bots in any given world I logged into. Im not clear on how slowing them down brings more back.
Maybe in the end there are no really good answers regarding bots.
Maybe we are not so much subsiding PvM death costs as much as we are subsidizing the gold generated by bots.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
And a year ago, Double Surge was 30M...
I have seen you say that to make changes regarding alching would not be viable. I dont recall seeing a clear reason as to why. Like just now, in reply to me, you seemed to allude to bots returning to the game if those machines were to be removed.
I can see from your perspective that the tax may not seem to discriminate, but unless the thing about subsidizing PvM Death costs is just a cover story to come up with an excuse for it, then it does discriminate against anyone that isnt PvMing. I would think since those people are not risking, and will never get a FSOA drop, that they would be exempt since they will never benefit from the reduced death costs.
Im sorry, but with what we have been told neither of those things make perfect sense.
It hasnt been since the Summer when I was leveling in the Miner's guild, so I dont know what goes on today. Back then it was an easy stack of 15 to 20 bots in any given world I logged into. Im not clear on how slowing them down brings more back.
Maybe in the end there are no really good answers regarding bots.
Maybe we are not so much subsiding PvM death costs as much as we are subsidizing the gold generated by bots.
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
25-Jan-2023 21:27:37
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imo it's simple, primarily I play as a skiller, and I am unwilling to subsidize the deaths of Boss killers.
As in real life, I will continue to demand a premium on goods to cover the tax. I'll keep mashing that 5% as much as I can. Pay me or pay death, whatever.
Also, as in real life, once the power structure discovers that the existing tax isn't very effective they will increase it exponentially. 2%, 4%, 6%
The tax is grossly unfair as it disproportionately affects those who aren't dying on the regular.
In the beginning, it was simple. You die; you lose; unless you can run fast lol. It worked.
Good luck to everyone!
Same here. I was bringing up my calculator and figuring everything @ base price + 0.02% for a while, but that took up a lot of time and I just began hitting the +5% button. I mean things I buy for a few gp that I am getting a good profit on anyway I dont bother, but otherwise yeah.
Much faster.
With everyone doing it on most of the values that pop up, inevitably prices will rise.
A log for 500 gps + 5%
A log for 525 gps + 5%
A log for 551 gps, and so on as each new seller puts up logs.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
imo it's simple, primarily I play as a skiller, and I am unwilling to subsidize the deaths of Boss killers.
As in real life, I will continue to demand a premium on goods to cover the tax. I'll keep mashing that 5% as much as I can. Pay me or pay death, whatever.
Also, as in real life, once the power structure discovers that the existing tax isn't very effective they will increase it exponentially. 2%, 4%, 6%
The tax is grossly unfair as it disproportionately affects those who aren't dying on the regular.
In the beginning, it was simple. You die; you lose; unless you can run fast lol. It worked.
Good luck to everyone!
Same here. I was bringing up my calculator and figuring everything @ base price + 0.02% for a while, but that took up a lot of time and I just began hitting the +5% button. I mean things I buy for a few gp that I am getting a good profit on anyway I dont bother, but otherwise yeah.
Much faster.
With everyone doing it on most of the values that pop up, inevitably prices will rise.
A log for 500 gps + 5%
A log for 525 gps + 5%
A log for 551 gps, and so on as each new seller puts up logs.
New(ish) Player
:
This is YOUR world, and I'm just a squirrel tryin' to get a nut.
RS3: The game where RWTers are more important than Real Live Players
25-Jan-2023 21:34:01 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2023 21:34:49 by Ruby_Red0
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