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Well in a way, we are arguing to disprove the other's point of view, since we are constantly arguing. Lol i can see that you are better then I am, and i figured you had experience. Was any of what I said new to you?
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Not really. Actually, you and Ruben's point repeated a little, and on multiple occasions, when I debated with myself, and indeed later with a few religious leaders, same points were raised. So actually I'm rather used to them by now
God is perfect, and we are not, to me, it makes perfect sense. Why would such an imperfect being be able to be with such a perfect being, it does not make sense to me.
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Ah, but sorry to blaspheme, but I would say that God is not. The religion would instruct so that God is perfect, and this teaching has been taught as such. But a God who would commit mass murder because of a Pharaoh's decision? Someone who would strip a man of his whole family and possessions because of a stupid bet? Logic would tell me that God isn't nearly as perfect as the religious leaders say.
Ok, one day we were driving in the mountains with some friends, a two car convoy, and I was in the second car, and the rest of the family was in the first. The first car slipped on an oil spot, and was spinning, and heading straight for the drop, and then the car just stopped, while having one wheel in the air, and nothing to stop it. How do you explain that?
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Without having seen or experienced it, I am in no position to say. But would you be so quick as to point this as concrete evidence to be a divine intervention from your God?
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Not really. Actually, you and Ruben's point repeated a little, and on multiple occasions, when I debated with myself, and indeed later with a few religious leaders, same points were raised. So actually I'm rather used to them by now
God is perfect, and we are not, to me, it makes perfect sense. Why would such an imperfect being be able to be with such a perfect being, it does not make sense to me.
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Ah, but sorry to blaspheme, but I would say that God is not. The religion would instruct so that God is perfect, and this teaching has been taught as such. But a God who would commit mass murder because of a Pharaoh's decision? Someone who would strip a man of his whole family and possessions because of a stupid bet? Logic would tell me that God isn't nearly as perfect as the religious leaders say.
Ok, one day we were driving in the mountains with some friends, a two car convoy, and I was in the second car, and the rest of the family was in the first. The first car slipped on an oil spot, and was spinning, and heading straight for the drop, and then the car just stopped, while having one wheel in the air, and nothing to stop it. How do you explain that?
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Without having seen or experienced it, I am in no position to say. But would you be so quick as to point this as concrete evidence to be a divine intervention from your God?
24-Feb-2011 18:39:31
No need to feel ashamed to not read this, Cheeze. We are all governed by our lives and other priorities
As for your friend, does he believe that girls who had known men before the wedding night should be stoned to death? That women should be silent in congregations? That children who do not respect their parents be stoned to death? If he doesn't believe in those too, then he also picks and chooses what part in the Bible he wanted to believe. Not to mention that someone else had chosen what to put in the Bible anyway, and what not to, so in essence what he's reading has been picked and chosen for him.
Strangely enough, I find your beliefs quite acceptable, and wished that every Christian out there believed in your ideals. In fact, I can guarantee you'll have a better world.
As for your friend, does he believe that girls who had known men before the wedding night should be stoned to death? That women should be silent in congregations? That children who do not respect their parents be stoned to death? If he doesn't believe in those too, then he also picks and chooses what part in the Bible he wanted to believe. Not to mention that someone else had chosen what to put in the Bible anyway, and what not to, so in essence what he's reading has been picked and chosen for him.
Strangely enough, I find your beliefs quite acceptable, and wished that every Christian out there believed in your ideals. In fact, I can guarantee you'll have a better world.
25-Feb-2011 11:22:36
And those are the Bible verses that they leave out of the Sunday readings.
25-Feb-2011 12:27:25
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