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Azigarath

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Glad to hear that I'm doing a good job at trying something different! I was kinda worried that the setting was too unoriginal, with the main story too common, but it looks like things are going at least in a good direction. Heh, and it doesn't get any more unoriginal than “Demon God”. I can;t belvie I didn't even bother giving him a name XD

Well, as for RuneScape deities, I have no clue about any of them.

Hello again Angel, I eagerly await for tomorrow.

24-Jan-2016 23:12:37

Westenev

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NotFishing said :
Compared to Zaros, or just in general? If so, I don't see how you came to that conclusion. Zamorak will bring war and conflict, while Zaros will bring stability.


You, sir, need to watch more anime. In fictional oppressive societies that cull the weak, a hero will always rise to fight the oppressor. Ultimately, due to his powers, Zaros was doomed to the fate of a villain as soon as he took a position of prominence.


NotFishing said :
Compared to Zaros, or just in general? If so, I don't see how you came to that conclusion. Zamorak will bring war and conflict, while Zaros will bring stability. He is a lot like Saradomin, only he doesn't throw tantrums, doesn't get all up in your face, and doesn't pretend he is some morally righteous benevolent deity who can do no wrong. Basically, Saradomin without all the flaws that make us hate Saradomin.


I present to you the character bio of EVERY GOD IN THE SIXTH AGE. If you think Zamorak is bad, Armadyl's religion and creed is shown to be a carbon copy - only people don't hate him because he always has the luck to end up the hero, and he hasn't spent any time under the limelight.


NotFishing said :
n and all that." Zaros decides: "You know what, I should probably fix that."


"By leaving my empire built around my compelling voice without me and cutting costs on psychiatric healthcare for my top generals."

It wasn't so much a "I should probably fix that", so much as a BSOD "OH MAH, WHAT HAVE I DONE" after forcing the desert pantheon into a corner, making them more or less nuke the Kharidian Jungle into the Kharidian desert. From what we've been told, and despite his talks of being morally grey, Zaros likes to play the knight in shining armour - he does not like it when people would prefer suicide to his brand of salvation.
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24-Jan-2016 23:48:46 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2016 23:59:38 by Westenev

NotFishing

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Westenev said :
You, sir, need to watch more anime. In fictional oppressive societies that cull the weak, a hero will always rise to fight the oppressor. Ultimately, due to his powers, Zaros was doomed to the fate of a villain as soon as he took a position of provenance.


How does Zaros cull the weak, exactly? I have never seen a single one of his sane followers say "The weak need to be destroyed!" Or at least I don't remember them saying that. Zamorak and Bandos are the gods who want to cull the weak.

As for his powers, Seren basically does the same thing. Is she an oppressor?

Westenev said :
I present to you the character bio of EVERY GOD IN THE SIXTH AGE. If you think Zamorak is bad, Armadyl's religion and creed is shown to be a carbon copy - only people don't hate him because he always has the luck to end up the hero, and he hasn't spent any time under the limelight.


Armadyl is the god of law and justice. Zamorak is the god of chaos and destruction. Zaros is the god of control and logic.

Those philosophies are completely different.

Westenev said :
"By leaving my empire built around my compelling voice without me and cutting costs on psychiatric healthcare for my top generals."

It wasn't so much a "I should probably fix that", so much as a BSOD "OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE" after forcing the desert pantheon into a corner, making them more or less nuke the Kharidian Jungle into the Kharidian desert. From what we've been told, and despite his talks of being morally grey, Zaros likes to play the knight in shining armour - he does not like it when people would prefer suicide to his brand of salvation.


I'm not sure where you made the leap from him trying to cure a race's infertility to him withdrawing from his empire after the desert blew up.

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24-Jan-2016 23:59:24

NotFishing

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If you're going to blame anyone, blame Tumeken. He blew up his own kingdom. His people would have been totally fine under Zaros's rule. This didn't make Zaros go "OH GOD WHAT HAVE I DONE!" so much as it made him go "Wow... they really didn't want me taking over their kingdom... maybe I should pull out." His withdrawal also had a lot to do with him realizing his magic voice thing was wrong and deciding not to use it.

And at least Zaros learned from his mistake. Zamorak has kept the same philosophy.

Zaros no longer wants to be the knight in shining armor. He wants to be that guy who nudges people along from the shadows. If you want wannabe knights in shining armor, look to Saradomin and Armadyl.

Just out of curiosity, do you actually support Zamorak?
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25-Jan-2016 00:05:08 - Last edited on 25-Jan-2016 00:07:52 by NotFishing

Westenev

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NotFishing said :
How does Zaros cull the weak, exactly? I have never seen a single one of his sane followers say "The weak need to be destroyed!" Or at least I don't remember them saying that. Zamorak and Bandos are the gods who want to cull the weak.


Azzandra is actually pretty bloodthirsty, though this may or may not be the result of being locked in a pyramid for a looong time.

IF I remember correctly, the weak and powerless were done in without a second thought, and it was legal so long as you held adequate rank. I think Sliske ended up holding some fairly interesting plays using real live people, and some very convincing death scenes.


NotFishing said :
As for his powers, Seren basically does the same thing. Is she an oppressor?


It's an unfortunate case, but yes she is. We've all seen what happens if the elves try to live without her on Tarddaiad - she's a drug, and to this day, the Elves have no immunity to her influence. You can't really use her as an excuse either, because like Zaros, she unintentionally drove her people to the brink of extinction.

NotFishing said :
And at least Zaros learned from his mistake. Zamorak has kept the same philosophy.

Zaros no longer wants to be the knight in shining armor.


Has he now? How do you know this new Zamorak isn't reformed, and isn't Zaros's attempt to convince us of the righteousness of his plan evidence enough of his constant white knighting? What of his actions during the revival of Seren? His sudden unwillingness to contact the allies he once held so dear, or create the grand empire of mortals he had always dreamed of?

Face it, Zaros is a broken hero who no can no longer trust anyone.


NotFishing said :
Just out of curiosity, do you actually support Zamorak?


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25-Jan-2016 00:23:49

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