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George Rozas

George Rozas

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I think Inferi's real issue with your characters, Azi, is that Rory doesn't seem to care about anything. You called him a sociopathic criminal, but right from the get-go Inferi wanted everyone to play characters who WOULD care, so the character himself is antithetical to the thread's primary drive - characters who care and WANT to help stop the bad guys, because it's the right thing to do.

We're playing as the heroes, remember. Anti-heroes are all well and good, because they still care, but a hardened mercenary with no moral compass and no real reasons to care about the situations unfolding before him doesn't make for a hero so much as a man who will stand there questioning why they care about the lives of a few civilians that have been kidnapped. I am Inferi.

21-Nov-2018 03:24:01

Westenev

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I think we need to stop assuming everyone works for the greater good, and focus on some real character motivations here. I mean, I'm fairly sure a roguish character like Rory would be motivated by greed or wealth. Most of the cast would be motivated by a plea for help even if it endangered their lives (though the call to action to protect the outpost was a bit far, IMHO). This is the assumption I made when I joined the thread.

A creepy basement with dead people, magic swords and cult themes is not what I had in mind when I wrote up Elyssia's persona. I don't particuarly mind, but I also think it's unfair to expect strong opinions from a character who isn't personally invested in the current scene.

Perhaps if we were all Tias soldiers (or had beef with Tias), we would know where our loyalties lie. But most of our characters are civilians (and foreigners at that) who simply got caught up in the situation.
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21-Nov-2018 03:36:22 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2018 03:45:07 by Westenev

Azi Demonica

Azi Demonica

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All good points, George and West, they're all valid and reasonable. Rory's initial reaction was to get revenge, as he is basically an Irish stereotype. Elizabeth is more heroic-minded, but incapable of being a hero, whereas Rory is capable of being a hero but is criminally-minded. I thought having contrasting characters was a good idea, but maybe it just didn't work here.

Overall, I need to wait until further details emerge. Since I occasionally get carried away, as what happened in Into the Fire, The Koray, and to some extent in Ashlands, and all according criticisms and comments, I'm less impulsive and more passive, just in case.

Oh, and yes Annie, your post is fine in Omega, though you do mention Annie dodges bullets when the swoop gang is shooting blasters.

21-Nov-2018 03:48:02 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2018 03:48:58 by Azi Demonica

George Rozas

George Rozas

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The trouble with the motivation of greed and wealth is the lack of either, as far as I can tell Rory just wants revenge on that one captain for beating him up a bit. Fair enough reasoning, but when that's over you have to ask - without any further motivation, why woud he continue on what may well be a deadly quest?

Let's say... A city is at risk of being destroyed and its citizens all killed or otherwise harmed. Our characters have the ability to stop it from happening, but to do so requires them to immediately get to the bad guys without any form of backup, no promised compensation and the knowledge that what they're going to do has a very likely outcome of them dying. However, if they don't do anything, or try and go warn the city soldiers or rulers, many people will die - albeit they themselves could easily leave said city before the killing happens.

That is the hero scenario. There's no promise of payment, no guarantee of glory and high risk that they could all die. All in all, there isn't anything in it for them - but it's the right thing to do. How many of our characters would go through with it?

I'm not saying there isn't more to Rory than we've seen so far, there could well be, I just know Inferi gets frustrated by the words "(name) didn't really care" or similar phrases, because we really should care to some degree or there won't be any real motivation. I am Inferi.

21-Nov-2018 03:50:26 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2018 03:52:48 by George Rozas

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