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Westenev

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NotFishing said :
I suppose the Gray Jedi do have problems of their own. They're constantly standing in the middle of a seesaw between Light and Dark, and if they move too far to one end they'll overbalance and fall in.

I don't think that would happen. Without a breaking point, there simply wouldn't be a catalyst. Every Sith we've seen so far has had this breaking point; a time where people were either unable to come up with the right advice, or simply acted in a way that alienated the person.

I mean, would Anikan have fallen to the dark side if his love were endorsed and his talents acknowledged?

Would Count Dooku have fallen to the dark side if his opinions weren't shafted from the Republic for personal interests?

The Jedi are too concerned about pride and appearances, while the Sith seek personal motivation. Wouldn’t it be great to have both? I mean, it’s not like the dark side doesn’t have its uses – think of the saving Count Sidious makes in power bills!
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16-May-2017 18:59:51

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Oh no, Force Lightning is definitely evil. In order to use it, you basically have to want your opponent to suffer. I don't think that can be achieved with this healthy middle-ground we've all been talking about.

But it's still entirely possible for a Grey Jedi to find himself shifting towards either side of the spectrum, since they already have both doors slightly open. What happens if a Grey Jedi loses a loved one, or suffers a traumatic experience, and either stops caring or becomes an emotional wreck? Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

16-May-2017 19:04:41

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Actually, scratch what I said about Force Lightning. Apparently there is a Light Side equivalent called Electric Judgement, which just isn't very common.

But that's also from the Expanded Universe, which just can't be relied upon. Thanks Disney! Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

16-May-2017 19:07:14

Westenev

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NotFishing said :
And another guy at the beginning of Force Awakens. I don't know his name, but he appears to have known Kylo when he was younger.

It's okay, he probably didn't either.

To be fair, I think Kylo is a bit of a Yandere-chan. He has an obvious fixation on his father, and it was very apparent he cared very much about what his father thought. When the ball finally landed in his court, he hadn't yet gotten the awnser he sought. So, like SAO Abridged Kaiaba (who decided to continue the game after it got hacked and the log out button deleted), he let the chips lay where they fell, and continued the game the only way he knew how - by killing his father.

Sith... sorry... first order are very emotional people; so it makes sense for them to posess degrees of mental illness. If such people made rational decisions 100% of the time, we wouldn't have made terms for it.
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16-May-2017 19:11:08 - Last edited on 16-May-2017 19:15:46 by Westenev

Westenev

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NotFishing said :
But it's still entirely possible for a Grey Jedi to find himself shifting towards either side of the spectrum, since they already have both doors slightly open. What happens if a Grey Jedi loses a loved one, or suffers a traumatic experience, and either stops caring or becomes an emotional wreck?

Then another Grey Jedi would be there to look after him. Not the orders interests. Not their own interests. They would be looking out for a friend.


NotFishing said :
Oh no, Force Lightning is definitely evil. In order to use it, you basically have to want your opponent to suffer. I don't think that can be achieved with this healthy middle-ground we've all been talking about.

What do you mean it isn't healthy to want to strangle someone for the price of basic utilities?
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16-May-2017 19:17:37 - Last edited on 16-May-2017 19:23:32 by Westenev

NotFishing

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Westenev said :
Then another Grey Jedi would be there to look after him. Not the orders interests. Not their own interests. They would be looking out for a friend.

Thing is, even with friends, some people still can't recover or stay the same after all that.

Also, even if something doesn't happen to change their mindset, people of the same ideology still find reasons for conflict with each other.

It is certainly better than the current system, but to act like it will put an end to the conflict is wrong. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

16-May-2017 19:44:19

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