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George Rozas

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Maybe I'm just seeing it wrong, but the Alpha wolf looks only slightly tougher than his minions in a few places, particularly speed and size. (Also slightly concerning that alpha vamp is a blur when they move, where alpha wolf, who is supposedly the physical king, moves at the pace of an average car at best) I am Inferi.

06-Aug-2016 22:56:56

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will eventually leave them with a splitting headache.

Well, good news for me, I know how to describe this perfectly. Bad news, I've had migraines every day for most of a year. :P
I just play FFXIV at this point. DC: Crystal

06-Aug-2016 22:59:33

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George Rozas said :
Maybe I'm just seeing it wrong, but the Alpha wolf looks only slightly tougher than his minions in a few places, particularly speed and size. (Also slightly concerning that alpha vamp is a blur when they move, where alpha wolf, who is supposedly the physical king, moves at the pace of an average car at best)

But you can lift and throw cars.

I'll take another look at it. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

06-Aug-2016 23:05:53

George Rozas

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Lifting and throwing cars is cool, don't get me wrong, just felt a little too closely matched on a few abilities in regards to my minions. A foot of height difference is definitely noticeable, don't get me wrong, I just imagined the Alpha as... Well, more of a 'holy shit that is one motherfucking huge werewolf' than 'that one is kinda tall for a werewolf'.

Maybe it's just me. For my character, his style doesn't translate into him turning into his wolf form commonly. It's more of a 'oh, so you're actually gonna make me try? well, nice knowing you' kinda thing, at least in my eyes, so I'd imagine the reveal to be far more distinctive. Blah blah blah I want my charcter to be better blah blah blah.

I was probably overthinking a lot of things. Such as one of his betas getting uppity with him, even angry enough to lash out at him in wolf form, and my character still in human form just grabs his wrist in mid-swing with comparable if not more strength. I think I was just imagining all the leaders to be more of a step above than what you've listed them as, because the way you described them before made them out to be... Seriously tougher. More so than what they're listed as.

But again, maybe I was the only one thinking they'd all be more impressive than they are. I am Inferi.

06-Aug-2016 23:16:31

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I didn't want the Alpha Werewolf to be insanely tall, because that will make indoor combat impossible.

As for the power thing, I suppose we could say that in human form the Alpha Werewolf has roughly the same strength as a transformed Beta Werewolf.

But if you have any other suggestions, I'm open to them. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

06-Aug-2016 23:20:23 - Last edited on 06-Aug-2016 23:22:58 by NotFishing

George Rozas

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Not saying Alpha has to be a 20 foot tall demigod, 9 foot just seemed a little too much like 'oh okay he's just tall for a werewolf' instead of him distinctly being the Alpha when transformed. Besides, indoor combat for the Alpha wolf would be glorious, mostly because he'd be smashing walls and ceilings due to huge size and strength, absolutely no subtlety, just destruction. Although, that's also another point for him not transforming very often. He'd ruin his home.

Honestly though, this isn't just for me. If Maddy and Venom are around feel free to pipe up and mention your own thoughts on your leader powers, mostly because I've got kind of an obvious bias for my own faction, but also because when I thought about how a leader fight would go I imagined ridiculous destruction due to serious power on every leader's part. Very obvious, very damaging, very awesome with buildings getting leveled sort of stuff. At the moment it feels a little more like... Streets will get kind of trashed, but all the buildings are gonna live to house folk another day. I am Inferi.

06-Aug-2016 23:31:03

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Okay, how does ten to eleven feet sound?

George Rozas said :
Very obvious, very damaging, very awesome with buildings getting leveled sort of stuff. At the moment it feels a little more like... Streets will get kind of trashed, but all the buildings are gonna live to house folk another day.

That is the vision I had too, but I'm not sure how to go about it without getting to cheesy levels of power.

One of my main concerns right now is that the vampires don't seem like they would do well against any of the Champions, since the Champions basically ignore everything they have. That's another thing I need to work on. Beneath the gold, the Bitter Steel.

06-Aug-2016 23:33:47

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