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Chuk

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And finally, I have to say that I think you could contribute more to the forum as a mentor than as a padawan, though if you're not quite ready, that's understandable. You certainly match the writing capabilities of many of the more well-known authors here. You also seem to have meshed into the community well enough by offering the Well Told Tales thread and whatnot. I don't know how much more help I can be beyond reading and commenting, and I'll do that whether or not I'm your mentor.

However, if you have a reason to remain my padawan awhile longer, that's perfectly fine. I just wanted to let you know that I think you're more than ready to move on.

28-Apr-2010 09:29:56 - Last edited on 28-Apr-2010 09:31:12 by Chuk

Englishkid62

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Logan - Pull some strings in this context means (like I always do) I'll ask around my connections and try to get them visit this thread, post comments, and whatnot.

Dream - I'm not in some trouble or that kinda thing, am I? O_o As you know of our timezone differences, I have to stay up to at least 4 or 5 am just to see you online, and you might not be on! Staying up this late too often may not be wise for my activities or college commitments the next day. Hope you understand. If I did something wrong you can tell me :)

Chuk - I personally didn't find passive tense in general a bad thing; it depends how they are executed, and by who. The above example is indeed a little confusing in first reading, and I also in that respect took time to reread the sentence, but blaming it on passive tense is not what I would have done :P . Of course one remedy would be changing the first clause, but changing the second clause slightly could also solve the flow issue.

I also personally didn't find over-describe something of a problem here. There's no correct way to write and, if you've read Virginia Woolf, you'll know what is over-writing :P (But she is still a literary giant). Certainly being more concise and express the same thing with less words is an admirable goal, but I wouldn't impose a percentage myself :P . While cutting words, it is important not to lose sight of what the original idea was aiming for too.

I completely agree that Logan would contribute better as a mentor lol. And true about matching the writing abilities of many great writers here.

(And, let's be honest, he should've applied as a mentor in the first place anyway!)

28-Apr-2010 14:18:14 - Last edited on 28-Apr-2010 15:06:58 by Englishkid62

Logan Shafts
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Logan Shafts

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Dreamweaver:

You're welcome to post any time, of course.
Comments are always nice, especially from you. I very much enjoy your writing (I've read all your stories, you should write more, lol).



Chuk: Sorry! Lol. I edited that, though I'm not sure it’s any better now. Upon reading it when you mentioned it, I didn't even recognize it as from Synergy - I must've written it in my sleep. *.x

You're correct; it very much upset the flow. Thanks.

I got into the habit of starting a new line for every sentence at some point, unsure when. But I know I can't stand big blocks of text, so I think it's better than clumping relatively non-related sentences into huge paragraphs, etc...I'll work on compounding them, though.

As for your question, the Den is supposed to be magical, though that isn't said directly in the story. I had hoped that the fact that the fox can talk would imply such, but I'm afraid the detail was left unaccounted for nonetheless...

As for over description, I don't think it's really such a bad thing to describe - some people enjoy that style. On the other hand, I have noted a few places in my stories where I describe things which are fairly trivial in regards to the story, which is sometimes annoying to the reader. I have already sorted out a few instances of this, and I'll continue to proof read and keep that in mind. Thanks.

As for being a mentor, I did talk to Elite about that. He said if the need arose, that I could mentor somebody who needs a basic teacher. As for keeping you as a mentor, I'd appreciate it if we left that as is - when you get time it's still nice to get a little constructive feedback, which you exemplified in your previous post.

Thanks for your vote of confidence, though.

28-Apr-2010 16:37:46 - Last edited on 28-Apr-2010 16:38:01 by Logan Shafts

Logan Shafts
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Logan Shafts

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English:

Ah, well I appreciate the gesture, but I'm not sure I need more comments, unless they'd like to point out errors. If you think they'll enjoy reading though, then by all means tell them about it.

As for me applying as a mentor in the first place, I would consider that to be a little presumptuous. I'm no literary master. In fact I'm rather new to the whole field. Also, I didn't know at the time exactly how good most of the mentors were.

It's also the case that I've already learned a lot from my experiences here. If you were to read my stories before people critiqued them, you might rethink your position, lol.

28-Apr-2010 16:38:14

Englishkid62

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"Not sure if I need more comments" is actually something rarely said on these forums :|

Presumptuous? Are any of us literary masters? Would that make all of us presumptuous? Maybe you thought mentors were supposed to be grandmasters or something, but really they aren't. If anything, they're more like a friend :|

And now you know you're probably better than most mentors we have.

28-Apr-2010 17:33:00 - Last edited on 28-Apr-2010 17:34:54 by Englishkid62

Logan Shafts
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Perhaps nobody on the forums is a literary master, but in a relative sense there is definitely a big gap in skill levels between some of the more pronounced writers here and myself.

Also, I am quite new to these forums, and I thought it might be a little deconstructive to walk in and ask to teach somebody, without giving any charitable reason as to why I'm qualified.

If I were to anger somebody, it would inevitably lower the utility of the forums, which is the antithesis of the purpose in the whole mentoring process.

Anyways, I didn't particularly consider it at the time. I try to climb a ladder from the bottom, because if I can jump to the top, I don't see a need for a ladder anymore.

Even so, I think this discussion is unnecessary. It's up to Elite to decide if I should mentor somebody or not, in the end. So my own opinion on it is irrelevant, other than that I am willing should the need arise.

But thanks - regardless of how it turns out - for being supportive. ^^

28-Apr-2010 17:45:56 - Last edited on 28-Apr-2010 17:46:11 by Logan Shafts

LovelyMelons

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AMAZING! Simply and utterly AMAZING! The way you command your words-the description, the voice, the soul of it-it's BRILLIANT!

A lone cockroach crawled along the barren soil of your mind.
Darkness surrounded. Malnutrition set in upon the poor little creature. Its meager existence was not embellished by the deserted home it inhabited.

How on earth could you come up with this?! You have pure, raw talent teeming with potential, and you my friend, are a PROFESSIONAL writer! I mean, I mistaked you for an amaeuter critic who liked finding faults in people's stories! (lol, sorry about that...) I thoroughly enjoyed reading it...it's wonderful! Thank you very much for your support in my stories, it's good to be critiqued by a professional, not some wannabe noob who wants to make himself feel good about himself. You're an incredible writer, and I hope to see more in the future!

-My absolute BEST regards,
Pownhydra the Critic

(Yes, I usually end my messages with the whole sincerely, best regards, etc.)

29-Apr-2010 00:56:05 - Last edited on 29-Apr-2010 00:56:23 by LovelyMelons

Chuk

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English, I took that figure from Stephen King's book on how to write well. And you (should) know how much I love my description. It's something I'm trying to work on myself, and I think it improves my writing. There's always a certain amount of "hurry up and get to the freaking point, dangit!" that a reader feels, which can be frustrating.

Granted, it comes down to style, but it's something I'd like Logan to think about. Just because I say that, though, doesn't mean he needs to institute it.


And Logan: There's not really that much of it throughout the story, just here and there; I'm looking for stuff to pick on, 'cause it rarely just jumps out at me in your pieces. ^_^

Mostly what I'm referring to is when the adjective or adverb really is redundant and unneeded. Don't worry about it too much, though. Just give it a bit of thought, maybe.

EDIT: Oh, I forgot to comment on that question about escaping through the hole at the beginning. The magic was relatively obvious, but I'm still unclear as to why the fax couldn't escape out that hole when they could escape by the very non-magical means of punching the ceiling. Unless that's your point, that there is sometimes a simpler solution than we look for?

29-Apr-2010 01:04:35 - Last edited on 29-Apr-2010 01:08:03 by Chuk

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