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Thanks Yrolg- poetry should be read aloud, so to some extent I agree with you.
I prefer a melodic flow to poetry- but poetry per se (as you have pointed out) need not be rhyming at all- the capture of interest is foremost.
The lines which interested me in poetry were by Shakespeare...
"A glooming peace this morning with it brings;
The sun, for sorrow, will not show his head:
Go hence, to have more talk of these sad things;
Some shall be pardon'*, and some punished:
For never was a story of more woe
Than this of Juliet and her Romeo"
Especially the last two lines! I have written poems since I was about seven since I read this.
Finally Yrolg.... I will support this thread with gusto (to say the least!). Thank you for starting a Poetry Corner- there are many poets across Runescape who find these forums daunting. I will use my limited endeavours to bring them hence and hpefully jump the scary Story fence
All the best

13-Mar-2010 01:53:24

Perhaps your liking of iambic pentameter is because of Shakespeare's own fondness of it.
Do you think I should include a glossary of poetry terms on the second page?

13-Mar-2010 02:17:33

Thanks Yrolg- it is probably best not to list the ways in which poetry can be conveyed... it should be spontaneous, with/without rhyme and to some extent just enable expression (as we both know)
I am very much in awe of your skills (of a poetic and literary nature) and thus I am sure that you will know best...
But I promise to post a "serious" Runescape poem here soon.
Just returning to the above... poetry is simply expression and communication, and ultimately beauty of words. Confounding people with the differing forms of poetic interpretation may not help people construct a good poem. Humour is always the best way to start interest...
Wishing you all the best as always

13-Mar-2010 02:48:14

13-Mar-2010 05:02:05

I agree Yrolg
A quick overview of the differing forms of poetry (and terms) will help me too
Hope to catch up with you soon- off to the Event Community now
PS you do not need any help but if required please do not hesitate to let me know- I would love to read some of your poetry too

13-Mar-2010 21:59:52 - Last edited on 13-Mar-2010 22:00:57 by Amoraten

15-Mar-2010 00:30:42

Since it seems the conversation has ended, I'll post a piece of my own. All comments are greatly appreciated.
Substance
Upon the boughs of my soul’s tree
There kindly sits a memory
Inclined to state forevermore
The pain through which I’ve gone before.
It taunts with letters on its face
As long as time and wide as space
That spell a scene of hurt and pain
And sing a song of my love’s bane:
“A rose there sat on here, one day,
But ‘twas not long fore‘t wither’d way
And in that red-hued flower’s stead
There lay a love: forgotten, dead.
Upon its stem a wreath of black
Betrayed what memories do lack."

16-Mar-2010 04:28:26

Yrolg, I really loved the imagery and use of a lilting lullaby to convey such a sad recollection of a lost love- it reminded me a little of Keats.
The line "Upon the boughs of my soul’s tree", visually sets the scene immediately and is a vivid metaphor which hints of the bitter pain to follow.
I particularly liked the way in which you use simple rhyme with poignancy and my favourite lines in the entire piece are at the end-
"Upon its stem a wreath of black
Betrayed what memories do lack."
I know you mentioned earlier that you are not a fan of strict meter in rhyme, but the meter in the final two lines give a certain finality to the piece (and again it's use throughout is very effective too).
Just a quick question- when you use the abbreviated terms in the final stanza, is this specifically to give an image of creeping images of yesteryear (i.e. the use of the Olde English) or because the words do not otherwise fit the meter of the piece? I am assuming the former, which if so is quite effectively done as well.
Looking forward to reading more poems from all different authors too

16-Mar-2010 18:13:26

16-Mar-2010 18:52:54

Amoraten,
I don't recall ever saying I wasn't a fan of rhyming poems, nor of those that follow a meter. Indeed, these are usually my most favourite poems, as one which is successful can convey the thoughts and images of a truly striking scene within the strict bounds of the rhyme and meter. They are difficult to create and impossible to perfect. They really are, to me at least, both the top and bottom of the poetry pie.
They are the bottom, I admit, because they are quite simply the easiest to fail at, too. The reason for their difficulty is the sheer ease through which one can completely annihilate an otherwise wonderful poem. The strict formats allow for both an arena to show off your creativity as well as your lack of it.
And I think this is why I prefer the rhyming meter: to truly make a masterful piece in this style requires either immense talent or immense dedication. In my personal opinion, a successful free style poem will never capture the audience quite as well as a metered poem because it lacks the one thing which draws most readers back: awe. In my personal opinion, the limits of the free style poem (and this includes only those of which I've had the pleasure to read) are bounded within and expanded by those of the rhyming meter.
This is, of course, not to say that free style isn't as great: by my measurements of quality in this discourse, it surely doesn't match up. But each style has its own advantages, and, in a different situation, free style might surely well be superior to the meter.

Regardless, I'd like to thank you for your thoughts. I'm glad you liked my poem: it means a lot that you took such efforts not only to read, by to analyze it. I appreciate this.
(The ending stanza's primordial style is for both reasons. I could not fit the full statement into the restrictions, but, not wanting to simply cut it apart, I formatted it so that it fit into the archaic lexicon. I hoped that this might even add another level to the depth.)

16-Mar-2010 21:10:27