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Kotane

Kotane

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Bust out of my shell,
I awake, laughing.
As the pieces fell,
I rose, trapping
Words within my net.
They change, slowly;
Rearrange ridiculously into thoughts
that I fling into the wind; blowing
its breeze in my cot.
I rest knowing my work is done
Metamorphosis of myself.
And though I know the war's not won,
I change into something else.
I look at my shell.
And then, myself.
Have i deserved this?
This, this bliss?
Of freedom, of joy?
Responsoblity to employ?
As the pieces fell,
I arise, laughing.

29-May-2010 12:53:04

Yrolg

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Xana_anaX,
Hello. I'm a fair few weeks late in this feedback, so I'll make it a little more in-depth than I normally do. Hopefully this can somehow compensate for my tardiness. :)
"Poem #1"
I felt as if this poem was too abstract to really be effective. You provide a series of sayings and clichéd mantras. These can be incredibly effective in poetry if utilized correctly. This usually entails an intimate connection with the reader as well as a climactic ending to the poem. This is unusual because usually free verse poems do not focus on a plot but more of a scene.
The punctuation was a bit off, which is not necessarily a bad thing**** cummings knew how to misuse punctuation and grammar to an absolutely astounding effect. What the reader feels, however, after reading it is more that you misused it and less that it added to the poem. In a poem focusing on such a dark and dreary topic, I would suggest using proper grammar, however, and not trying to utilize the manipulation of its misuse.
I think that you should focus on clarifying your point. What can be gleaned as of now is merely that greed is bad. You should focus on really defining your wanted theme. You can do this by being more picky with your word choice and replacing some of your overused sayings with descriptions of examples of what happens when the world succumbs.
Furthermore, I thought the following lines should be reconsidered because, although perfectly fine in their own right, they have little to do with the lines leading up to them and contemplation of their meaning to the rest of the poem will be distracting to the reader:
"Like how the devil believes
What he does is right,
Some criminals arent criminals
In their own eyes. ".

29-May-2010 20:59:51

Yrolg

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"Our ZeEnNith-aAble Ascent"
I think the effect of this poem was really lost when you began using the word "touch" within the stanzas and not merely as a motif. By overusing the term, you are making the effect of its continual usage diminish; you are decreasing the maximum effect the word could have.
Having it as a motif is perfectly fine. I think, in all actuality, that as a motif, it could be really powerful -- and indeed is, except for the overusage in other parts of the poem.
Also, I think that as a motif, it isn't universal enough to the poem. This, I think, is more a problem of structure and less a problem of the term. To a discerning eye, the beginning and end of your poem are completely separate, using different styles and focusing on different ideas. Whereas as the first is almost scathingly critical of materialism, the end focuses on the idea of insanity and betrayal. This culminates in no definite theme and central idea on which the poem is concentrating, and, thus, a disconnect with the reader.
This is only further exacerbated by the stanza of seeming gibberish. The reader will not want to translate it; this is a poem, not a riddle. I think I can understand a rationale for including it (further emphasizing the insanity and "out of touch" mentality of the subject), but it does not really serve the intended purpose. Instead, it detract from the overall piece.
This would be better if divided into two poems. The first would focus on the socially critical idea and the second on the effect this has on men.
Lastly, I don't understand the point of the title. The title is supposed to represent the theme you've selected (or at least the piece), but to a regular reader, it would be utterly and completely lost.

29-May-2010 21:14:58

Yrolg

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"Exordium de Orbis Terrarum"
Hello. Overall, I think you did a very good job identifying your theme and thoughts in this poem. This is usually easier to do with versed poems. If I took a gander, this appears as a sonnet, which is form that really requires you to identify your theme.
What I would focus on improving, however, is your iambic pentameter, as I presume this is what you're working with. Without it, the poem has an incredibly forced feeling.
To give you an example of what I mean, think of it this way:
Your current version contains this,
"My heart was filled with thoughts I now have banned.
It, too, can look into your soul and see
The sins you have committed in His name, "
But if you invert it to read like this,
"My heart was filled with thoughts I now have banned.
Into your soul it too can look and sed
The sins you have committed in his name"
You retain command of the flow of the verse. It makes the poetry read much more smoothly whilst also providing a sounder foundation of rhythm with which to work.
Also, I think you copped out a few times. Each line should read as a full clause, so ending it with introductory nouns for the following line is really detrimental. "My eyes" does not belong in the second line.
And, lastly, I think that in the fourth from last line, the evil should be introduced by an extended hyphen (a dash), and not a comma. The dash will help to clarify that you mean that the narrator is the evil and that it is not another instance of a previewing noun. ;)

29-May-2010 21:48:23 - Last edited on 29-May-2010 21:48:44 by Yrolg

Kotane

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Gari, I like the fact that you've introduced a bit of musical inspiration on this thread. A lot of people don't realize that music is poetry too, just put to instruments and a beat. I also like that it is in ballad form. The repetition is well-used and it doesn't dilute the rest of the lyrics. I think the only negative criticsm i have about ur poem is that it doesn't quite mesh and flow well. But it is quite well done.
Smurfett, I think your poem would be better arranged in quatrains (4-line stanzas) than in couplets. Your meter is off a bit in the 3rd couplet from the other two. The 6th couplet, I think would be better off as "I, myself, and me".
You capitalized gentle and spelled blissful wrong. But otherwise, very good. I like the subject matter, and the words you use convey that message clearly.
hmm, DIREFOX, I personally am not a big fan of that poem about cats. It's humorous, but other than conveying the fact that you hate cats, I see no other purpose. Maybe you don't need one. It just left me a bit perplexed.
Powerman, as Gari wrote a ballad, you have as well. But, I can tell it is a bit jumbled. It doesnt have a whole lot of lryical flow. I think no mercy would be better than mercilessness.

31-May-2010 02:04:59

66FordBronco
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66FordBronco

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the poem about cats was from when i was 11 it was wrote for no other reason but to be humorous and as for poetry in music i see this alot in bon jovi songs they have alot of good rhymes and stuff like
this aint a song for the broken hearted
aint now song for faith departed
on the subject of music
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Music is what makes you move
Music is what makes you groove
Music can be good or bad depending on how its used
Music can make you choose different clothes to wear
Music can make you change your hair
Music can make you choose new friends
Music can make you want to dance
Music can make you fight
Music can make everything alright
Music can take care of you when your alone
Music can make everything feel like home
Music can harm and take away
Music can make you want to stay
Music is the only friend I have
Music is my mom and dad
Music i* what keeps me alive
When I feel like I can't survive

01-Jun-2010 04:34:09 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2010 04:38:27 by 66FordBronco

Twid

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Sorry, I have taken a break from Runescape and such due to Finals and increased school work. I'm back!
KOA DIREFOX:
In response to your song/poem, I feel like it's too repetitive without being parallel. In the first two lines, you have a Subject, verb, noun; Music is what. The rest of the piece you have a subject, verb, verb sort of deal; Music can make/take/harm. Then you switch back to 'Music is.' Now, repetition of a line is a strong rhetorical strategy, to emphasize your point. But generally, unless it's a deep, strong and extremely important topic, the line or phrase is repeted three times. Three times. Three times. And more, and it get's boring. Additionally, Subject-verb sentence beginnings (Music is. Music can.) are the most commonly used beginnings, and therefore become very boring in everyday speech. In order to truly make your writing pop and get your point across, you need to add tone and inflection into your piece, often done through throwing in questions, dependant clause', or prepositions... When I read your poem, I read it in sort of a monotone because I got very little feel and emotion from it. Otherwise, your piece is interesting and you have some good ideas about music that are definately worth sharing through the art of poetry. Good start, but I think it needs a bit of work.

03-Jun-2010 05:41:31

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